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Transmission problems with Lexus ES?

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Re: Transmission Problem 2003 ES 300 [user777] by wwest
Jul 15, 2007 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: user777 (Jul 15, 2007 3:58 am)

Keep in mind that there is now NO mechanical connection from the shifter to the transaxle nor is there a mechanical connection from the gas pedal to the engine throttle.
 
The only thing left is the Stearing, brakes and ignition and even with those these days you can't be sure there isn't some ECU firmware in the control loop, especially with the ignition "control" key.
 
Some of the newer VSC systems even have the ability to "assume" control of the stearing inputs.
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Re: Transmission Problem 2003 ES 300 [wwest] by user777
Jul 15, 2007 (3:08 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Jul 15, 2007 9:12 am)

which is why i said, if putting the vehicle transmission in "N" did not actually cause the vehicle to slow, this poster has other problems as well.
 
ECM/PCM/TCM i don't know.
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Re: Transmission Problem 2003 ES 300 [user777] by wwest
Jul 15, 2007 (6:16 pm)
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Replying to: user777 (Jul 15, 2007 3:08 pm)

If the engine is at high torue, WOT (For whatever reason, fault, etc.) is it possible that the control firmware will not even allow a shift into neutral?
 
It most certainly would not "allow" a shift into reverse.
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Re: Transmission Problem 2003 ES 300 [wwest] by user777
Jul 16, 2007 (2:46 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Jul 15, 2007 6:16 pm)

good point. excellent point. i was assuming there was cable linkage to the transmission from the shifter. bad assumption perhaps.
 
i did recommend the poster contact the NHSTA didn't I?
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/
 
it could be like the airbus crash at the paris airshow... test pilot performs a low-altitude manuver that the engineers didn't anticipate in the programming of the system and the engine controls usurp pilot authority when he attempts to go full throttle (to make it over the trees).
 
he didn't make it.
 
if the transmission is programmed NOT to go to "N" at high rev, coupled with a sticky accelerator / non-linearity in sensing / or a confused throttle body servo, then that is one scarey scenario. you've got to be able to decouple the engine from the drivetrain if speed is increasing.
 
turning off the vehicle to "reset the electronics" is
 
now then, one would think it *may* be possible for the vehicle to be checked under controlled conditions again. but who would want to do it.
 
oh how wonderful if not repeatible, huh?
 
now, speaking for myself, and not trying to be alarmist, if i had an uncontrolled event like that which could not be pin-pointed / addressed, i'd be immediately dumping the vehicle, loss and all.
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Re: Transmission Problem 2003 ES 300 [user777] by wwest
Jul 16, 2007 (7:57 am)
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Replying to: user777 (Jul 16, 2007 2:46 am)

Was the gas pedal PUSHED so hard for that initial accerleration to pass that it stuck mechanically?
 
Or to be quite fair, the gas pedal may have been stuck under the carpet mat, like has happened to me twice, once many years ago and again just two years ago.
 
Carpet mat "draped" over the gas pedal but behind the brake pedal, the harder you brake the more the engine ROARS.
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Re: Transmission Problem 2003 ES 300 [wwest] by user777
Jul 16, 2007 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Jul 16, 2007 7:57 am)

always a possibility. there was a recall for this wasn't there, to install some hook or something to keep the mats from binding up with the pedals.
 
still, you have to be able to disengage the transmission. it's suicide if you can't.
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Re: Transmission Problem 2003 ES 300 [user777] by gavrik
Jul 16, 2007 (8:47 pm)
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Replying to: user777 (Jul 16, 2007 8:06 am)

No, the gas pedal was not stuck. The transmission behaved as if I was doing 45mph in 1st gear with RPMS going strong without any letup. I disengaged my foot of the accelerator then and put my foot on the brake. The vehicle started to slow down, however the RPMS did not change. I came to a complete stop thanks to strong brakes but the car would begin accelerating again had I took my foot of the brakes. I turned the car off right then.
 
Like I stated before, I no longer try flooring the gas pedal in any circumstances.
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Re: Transmission Problem 2003 ES 300 [gavrik] by user777
Jul 17, 2007 (3:30 am)
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Replying to: gavrik (Jul 16, 2007 8:47 pm)

you had an uncontrolled accelerator event then. it's clear the vehicle tried to take off when you let your foot off the brake from zero speed. that's not good.
 
thanks for confirming it wasn't an issue with the mats.
 
also good to know you shut the thing down at or near zero speed when you started taking off again... like i said, powering everything down is dangerous, but you did it at a more controllable condition than at speed.
 
ultimatley, we're glad you are ok!!!
 
i STRONGLY suggest you contact the NHSTA and put in an entry for your VIN.
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Re: Success with Manufacturer or Lemon Law? [shepali] by 1matt1
Jul 23, 2007 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: shepali (Dec 11, 2005 7:37 pm)

I'm having the same issues with my 05 ES330 and have been working with the dealer and Lexus to get it resolved...with no luck so far. Just the same; it's operating as it should. Have you had any luck?
 
My next option looks to be in the court but I've been doing whatever I get it fixed.
 
Any ideas/suggestions would be appreciated!
thanks!
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Re: Success with Manufacturer or Lemon Law? [1matt1] by texico
Jul 25, 2007 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: 1matt1 (Jul 23, 2007 6:28 pm)

Thank You all for the information. other than this site I've had a hard time getting anyone to tell me for sure what this could be.
My '92 ES300 started these same symptoms about a month ago.
running at 40-45 MPH when the accelerator is pressed it shutters like you ran over a dog or something.
I see allot of people have this same problem. I've had this car for over ten years... why would this problem just pop up now?

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