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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD [biodieseldude] by budsjp
Feb 15, 2007 (3:09 pm)
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Replying to: biodieseldude (Feb 13, 2007 12:30 pm)

This site can use some good news: Just traveled from Flat Rock, NC to Beaufort, SC and again, today, from Beaufort to Charleston and return and got between 28.8 and 29.5 mpg on all legs. Turned 21k on the odometer during the first leg. This is by far the best mileage I've gotten, prior was ~26 mpg. Speeds overall from 30-70 mph, with some city driving. Only thing done to the truck is the replacement of the wiring harness, previously related, at about 13k. Haven't used any additives, etc. Have stayed with BP diesel and bought it today in Charleston for $2.25/gal! Maybe the mileage increase is due to that $12 qt oil the dealer put in the last change (Mobil synthetic 0W40 as usual)!
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Re: Points Well Taken [caribou1] by biodieseldude
Feb 15, 2007 (5:24 pm)
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Replying to: caribou1 (Feb 15, 2007 1:31 pm)

So more to the point is which side will get to keep 'Jeep'. Its probably one of the most trusted brands they have............
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Re: F37 to do or not to do [dsieta] by storageguy
Feb 15, 2007 (6:39 pm)
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Replying to: dsieta (Feb 14, 2007 8:25 am)

Hello. I have an 06 and did do the recall. The dealership I go to is in a small town and their diesel mechanic very friendly and will to discuss the liberty diesel at length. First he likes them a lot, and secondly he said one could wait until the transmission failed and then get both the recall and the tranny done at the same time. The recall is to protect the transmission primarily. I can state that I really do not notice any difference in the vehicle. I am here in Calgary and have around 31,000 KM or 18,000 miles on the vehicle. By the way the Libery is awesome in our heavy snow.
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Re: Points Well Taken [caribou1] by farout
Feb 15, 2007 (7:03 pm)
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Replying to: caribou1 (Feb 15, 2007 1:31 pm)

caribou1: Thanks for the information. But, with $42,000. USD for a Liberty seems outrageous, but, maybe wages are much higher there? Here for $42,000. you can get a super nice "HEMI" GC or for about $38,000. a GC with the new V-6 CRD. Where I live, the yearly personal property tax on our Liberty CRD is about $280. and it goes down each year. The License plate is $40. a year and Insurance is $68. a month for very high coverage in our case. Payments here can be a lease (which I have never done) or buying it depends on a persons credit and how much down payment they have. I think at a bank lowest is near 7% and a really bad credit may be 24% (I think), Vehicles are an "necessary evil" so my wife says.
    
 
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Re: Points Well Taken [biodieseldude] by nescosmo
Feb 15, 2007 (10:52 pm)
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Replying to: biodieseldude (Feb 15, 2007 5:24 pm)

biodiesel.... The DCX of today can not see the tree from the forest. to make money the answer is small engine and diesel, yes diesel engine for america and it seems that they can not grasp the idea. They have good engines but maybe they do not go full power because they lack a good tranny.
 
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Re: F37 to do or not to do [storageguy] by mrmag00
Feb 18, 2007 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: storageguy (Feb 15, 2007 6:39 pm)

My 06 Liberty is in the shop last Wed. They are having
all kinds of problems. Couldn't get the PCM to take
the upgrade. Ordered new PCM..... Put in the PCM and still
problems. Replace ECM and this caused the PCM to lose it;s
memory. Ordered 2nd PCM for Monday. Will keep you
updated here in Calgary. You may just want to hold off
until they get a few more done. Service Rep says the
Canadian programming (pollution etc... I think) is different
than the US stuff and hence DC Tech Support is having troubles working the new changes in. Varsity is the dealer I'm using. Just a lot of water running today in Calgary.
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Re: Points Well Taken [nescosmo] by biodieseldude
Feb 18, 2007 (4:13 pm)
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Replying to: nescosmo (Feb 15, 2007 10:52 pm)

So the question is, in the splitup, will Crysler get the Jeep brand or will Diamler get the Jeep brand??
 
If they split I must believe that Diamler will take at least one brand with them be it Jeep, Mercedes, Dodge, Maybach, or even a combination... I would imagine they could even take Crysler with them if they wanted.
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Re: Points Well Taken [farout] by biodieseldude
Feb 18, 2007 (4:25 pm)
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Replying to: farout (Feb 15, 2007 7:03 pm)

Btw, the Grand Cherokee is going ot be using the new Bluetech diesel technology which was invented in a coop between Audi, VW, Jeep, and Mercedes. Mercedes already has 33,000 bluetech engines sold. Bluetech now being introduced to Jeep vehicles is likely to get better gas mileage than the CRD does, even in a V-6 with higher torque and HP it is currently guessed to get near 45mpg, of course they published the Libby CRD when it first came out to get 38mpg highway and we ended up with 27. That kind of mileage in a diesel with a higher tow rating and much more room and more comforts is what would make the difference for me in spending an extra 10k to get the GC over a Libby unless of course they plan for an 08 Libby Bluetech and V6 would be sweet... Am I wrong?
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Bluetech CRD. by farout
Feb 19, 2007 (10:54 am)
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I read in a Sept. or Oct. article that actual fuel mpg was at best 21 or so on the GC. They have re tuned this V-6 several times and are not too pleased with the mpg or the power. The new and improved version coming out perhaps in Aug. has the urea cat. converter. Now that sounds fun to pay the dealer to put pee in the tank! Where did anyone who is "normal" come up with such an idea? And it took what kind od degree to come up with such a wild idea? Hey, why not try a engine that burns DUNG, like 3rd world countries use for fuel to cook on!
    Just my observation, that looking at the schedule that DCX has for engines to go into Jeep vehicles Jeep is going to stay with the "old 3.7 V-6 and the newer 4.0 V-6 for at least until 2010. We have a 06 Liberty with the 3.7 V-6 and its a pig on gasoline. The Wrangler went to a 3.8 V-6 I wonder why they don't put it into the Liberty?
    If Jeep and other Jeep products don't change, as well as other vehicles made, we will become a slave to foreign oil, and may even become high dollar fuels like that of the European countries. I think fuel should be priced by the cubic inches a engine and the actual,real world mpg. The most asinine, outrageous idea was to make huge cubic inch engines, like the HEMI and others who make these gas sucking wasting engines, when we need to conserve our fuel, is putting the burden on future generations. To allow those who like to hear the rumble and feel the huge power these engines produce and waste our fuel should pay more per gallon based on HP. Having a vehicle that is just for impressing others, with 500 hp is a corruption of the trust that has been given to us, to care for the earth. I personally feel idea of just having huge powerful engines is a perversion in thinking about energy, and a miscarriage of trust of those who make these "fun to drive Vehicles".
   If Americans think $3.00 a gallon is expensive, just wait to see what hydrogen will cost.
 
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Re: Bluetech CRD. [farout] by caribou1
Feb 19, 2007 (12:58 pm)
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Replying to: farout (Feb 19, 2007 10:54 am)

Farout, are you afraid of the hydrogen boom?

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