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Jeep Liberty, Biodiesel, Diesel, SUV
#7062 of 11454 TSB 18-023-06 Works!
Jul 26, 2006 (8:15 am)
A new reflash of the ECM and TCM was released on July 14, 2006 (nearly 2 months after production of the CRD Liberty was halted early).
TSB 18-023-06 has produced smoother transmission shifting from 1-2 and 2-3 gears and thus far, my shudder at 53mph and 62mph can not be duplicated after 150 miles and two days of testing. I'm not prepared to declare victory - but I'm excited as it drives like an all new CRD right now.
Mine is an '05 CRD Sport built July 20, 2005.
As for trade in value, I traded in a 2004 Honda Element EX for this with 19,000 miles and 18 months of service on it and only took a $4000 hit (not really a hit considering the use I got). In Indiana, the trade in value is not subject to sales tax on the new vehicle, so my $16k trade was just shy of $17k value, so now only a $3000 hit from what I paid.
So the Honda only depreciated 15% in 1.5 years and it was mainly useage depreciation - it was like money in the bank. I will share that it too had many mechanical problems and bugs that needed worked out, but eventually it got fixed under warranty. Things like replacing the entire front transaxel assembly .
I went to a Toyota dealer just to play around with the FJ Cruiser. I got their best value trade in offer on my CRD (with no intention of ever doing it) and it was just above black book value. Approximately 45% below my well negotiated purchace price - I was like - "your crazy, all you have to do it put my Jeep up on that elevated rotating pedastal of yours out on the street and put the word DIESEL on the windshield and it's gone. I get 30mpg, your FJ cruiser gets 17." The guy just smiled.
Their offers, or best values, are stupid - but I was happy I had my fun.
#7064 of 11454 Re: TSB 18-023-06 Works! [alljeep]
Jul 26, 2006 (8:30 am)
Thank you for sharing your trade-in quote alljeep. You made my point exactly. 15% vs 45%.
#7065 of 11454 Re: iPod adapter [pttrillium]
Jul 26, 2006 (8:48 am)
It was retail $225. It fits behind the factory radio in the dash (you have to do a little demo, but it is very simple - do it yourself, the dealer wanted $200.) I have the base radio, so some of commands for the ipod aren't available, but I'm going to order the 6-disc soon, and that gives me full music and podcast access. The cradle plug is in the glovebox, just plug it in and close the glovebox, you control the iPod thru the stereo. Pretty slick, actually. You also get an "aux in" jack for any audio source. Also, up thru 3G iPod only is usable thru the aux in, with no iPod control. Make the dealer call it in. It came out about a month ago.
#7066 of 11454 Re: Swan Song...... [farout]
Jul 26, 2006 (9:33 am)
Farout. I am 40 years old and i do not finance for for than 48 months. I have not payed window sticker for any vehicle I have purchased. My wife worked for a dealer in finance and knows the tricks they pull to overcharge you. I was make the statement from Kelly Blue Book to Window sticker on a vehicle 1 month old.
#7067 of 11454 Re: Swan Song...... [new2diesel]
Jul 26, 2006 (9:43 am)
You bought a Hyundai ? That explains it all. Pardon me as I try to type over the laughter from the Hyundai dealer. As bugs bunny would say "what a maroone"
#7068 of 11454 Re: Swan Song...... [new2diesel]
Jul 26, 2006 (10:07 am)
new2diesel: Everyone goes through some buyers remorse. Most buyers do go over a pro and con list before they buy the vehicle, afterwards is too late.
Dealers especially like to deal with customers who dislike the brand they are driving. When a vehicle comes in with less than 12,000 miles and less than complementary about the brand they are driving, that's called a slam dunk buyer. When you go into a place and they can positively say they will give you X dollars wit out even seeing your vehicle, that sends lots of red flags up for me. No dealer sells at a loss! Not even a YUGO took the "drop like a rock" that you said was the very best deal you could get.
I don't disagree with you that I am "Farout" Honestly I just can not afford to sell, trade, or give away this vehicle. I have a budget and if I overspend on the transportation budget that something else gets shorted.
In all seriousness my wife and I prayed before we bought this vehicle, and unless we jumped the gun and got our message really misunderstood, I believe this vehicle is what I am to have. I am sure some think praying about buying a vehicle is pretty Farout, and I am "Farout"
In all honesty Hunydia has made some grate improvements, and I think you will enjoy your new SUV. Good luck.
#7069 of 11454 Re: Swan Song...... [vtdog]
Jul 26, 2006 (10:10 am)
VTDOG - your ignorance is showing.
#7070 of 11454 Re: Swan Song...... [farout]
Jul 26, 2006 (10:13 am)
Thanks Farout. I too believe in prayer. I hope your Jeep services you well. Good luck.