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Jeep Liberty, Biodiesel, Diesel, SUV
Jun 26, 2006 (12:12 am)
NHTSA Action Number : EA06008 NHTSA Recall Campaign Number : N/A
Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
JEEP / LIBERTY 2002-2006
JEEP / LIBERTY 4X4 2006
Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL ARM:LOWER BALL JOINT
Date Investigation Opened : May 31, 2006
Date Investigation Closed : Open
ON JANUARY 6, 2006, THE OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION (ODI) OPENED A PRELIMINARY EVALUATION TO INVESTIGATE ALLEGED FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINT SEPARATION WHILE DRIVING IN CERTAIN MODEL YEAR (MY) 2004 JEEP LIBERTY VEHICLES. ODI SENT A LETTER TO THE MANUFACTURER ON FEBRUARY 7, 2006, REQUESTING INFORMATION ABOUT THESE AND OTHER JEEP LIBERTY VEHICLES. BASED ON THE INFORMATION REVIEWED IN PE06-004, THE RANGE OF SUBJECT VEHICLES UNDER INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN EXPANDED TO INCLUDE ALL MY 2002-06 JEEP LIBERTY VEHICLES THAT USE THE SAME OR SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINT. ODI IS AWARE OF 495 NON-DUPLICATIVE COMPLAINTS THAT ALLEGE INVOLUNTARY FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINT SEPARATION IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES. ODI IS ALSO AWARE OF ONE NON-INJURY CRASH AND THREE ALLEGED INJURY INCIDENTS (TWO CRASH INCIDENTS AND ONE NON-CRASH INCIDENT) RELATED TO THE ALLEGED DEFECT RESULTING IN MINOR INJURIES. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE COMPLAINT COUNTS REPORTED ABOVE ONLY INCLUDE MY 2002-03 LIBERTY VEHICLES IF IT WAS DETERMINED THE ALLEGED BALL JOINT SEPARATION OCCURRED AFTER PRIOR RECALL REPAIRS WERE PERFORMED (SEE BELOW) OR IF THE VEHICLE WAS NOT SUBJECT TO THE PRIOR RECALL BECAUSE ITS VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION NUMBER (VIN) FELL OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF AFFECTED VEHICLES IDENTIFIED BY THE MANUFACTURER. THE MANUFACTURER CONDUCTED A PRIOR SAFETY RECALL (03V-460) TO ADDRESS THE SUBJECT ISSUE IN CERTAIN MY 2002-03 JEEP LIBERTY VEHICLES. ACCORDING TO DAIMLERCHRYSLERS DEFECT INFORMATION REPORT TO THE AGENCY (IN ACCORDANCE WITH 49 CFR PART 573) DATED NOVEMBER 4, 2003, THE CONSTANT TENSION LOWER CONTROL ARM BALL JOINTS MAY EXPERIENCE A LOSS OF LUBRICATION WHICH CAN LEAD TO CORROSION, ACCELERATED WEAR AND POSSIBLY SEPARATION FROM THE STEERING KNUCKLE. A CONSTANT TENSION BALL JOINT WHICH HAS SEPARATED FROM THE KNUCKLE MAY RESULT IN LOSS OF VEHICLE CONTROL WITH MINIMAL ADVANCED WARNING. THE MANUFACTURER HAS MADE NUMEROUS CHANGES IN THE DESIGN, MATERIAL COMPOSITION, MANUFACTURE, QUALITY CONTROL, SUPPLY, AND INSTALLATION OF THE SUBJECT BALL JOINTS SINCE THE PRIOR SAFETY RECALL WAS INITIATED IN AN EFFORT TO IMPROVE PERFORMANCE WITH RESPECT TO SEALING, LUBRICATION, AND JOINT RETENTION CAPABILITY. THE MANUFACTURER'S INVESTIGATION INTO ALLEGED FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINT SEPARATION IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES IS ONGOING. ACCORDINGLY, THIS INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN UPGRADED TO AN ENGINEERING ANALYSIS TO FURTHER STUDY THE FREQUENCY AND SCOPE OF THE ALLEGED DEFECT AND THE ADEQUACY OF THE REMEDY PROVIDED BY THE PRIOR SAFETY RECALL.
#6517 of 11454 Re: NHTSA Action # EA06008 [diesel_farmer]
Jun 26, 2006 (1:31 am)
I was told the addition of the steel fin (thermal shield) between the ball joint and the disk brake was the "fix". Could someone else comment?
#6518 of 11454 Glow Plug Circuit????
Jun 26, 2006 (5:22 am)
I posted last week and said my engine ligth was on and I was pretty sure it was my EGR. Well i was wrong. With 19,000 I still have my original EGR. They said the code was for Glow Plug Circuit on number 3 cylinder. The manul said to wiggle the wires and reset it to see if it comes back - I kid you not. So that is what they did. Of course the light didn't come back on during the 1 mile test drive. So once the dealer closed for the weekend the light came back on within 5 miles of the repair mileage. It just so happens this delaer is 125 miles from my house. So I have to go back down there next weekend and let them start wiggling again..... Has anyone else had this problem - a glow plug circuit code? If so how involved is it? Is it ok to put 500 miles on it before I get it back to the dealer? I know some of you know these engines well - Am I chasing an elecrtical ghost?
#6519 of 11454 Re: Glow Plug Circuit???? [new2diesel]
Jun 26, 2006 (6:28 am)
I believe you should be ok, the glow plugs help cold weather starting so you should have no problems in warm weather.
I had a similar problem at 13,000 miles and they replaced one glow plug and the control module that regulates the amount of time the glow plugs stay on.
I would verify that they have the parts as they had my liberty apart and found that they had to order the module and glow plug that took four days to arrive.
#6521 of 11454 Re: Jeep kills diesel Liberty in U.S. [winter2]
Jun 26, 2006 (12:11 pm)
So you are saying that we should have known that the CRD emmisions weren't going to be compatible with the fuel. (Iwould still call that a design flaw)
Tell me if you feel the same if and when your vehicle spends weeks in the shop waiting for parts and the tech to to quit scratching his head long enough to get it fixed.
#6522 of 11454 Re: NHTSA Action # EA06008 [caribou1]
Jun 26, 2006 (3:12 pm)
I was waiting for someone to chime in with a response.
Do you post elsewhere? Lost, forum, country, etc?
Moog, says they have built and sell a replacement lower ball joint. Google them and see their solution.
One of the jeep(Liberty/Cherokee), (Model KJ) web sites had a description of the operation of the front end suspension design and why they think it is an inherent design flaw. I agree. Remember my many references to my very old cadillac.
Supposedly, good old jeep engineers left for the ifs vs sfa design of our cherokee for this girly vehicle designed by Daimler? and for other things? We all know dcx was the first to buy the cheapest part from wherever in the world.
#6523 of 11454 Re: SHUTDOWN [synlubes]
Jun 26, 2006 (3:34 pm)
This is from the book:
The EGR system will shut down by the ECM after 60 seconds of continous engine idling to improve idle quality and the air flow control valve will close completely when the vehicle is shut off to assist with engine shake on shut down.