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#61 of 10709 agree on the service by sebring95 Sep 24, 2003 (4:45 pm)
I know many folks ripped by dealers for non-necessary preventative maintenance. You have to be a very informed consumer when dealer with a "foreign" auto dealer, and sometimes domestics. If you tell them "give me the 40k mile service" you may get the whole thing rebuilt. I've seen other brands do this as well (toyota, one of the local jeep dealers, and audi to name a couple) but you really have to read your owners manual and tell them what you want done. By following the owners manual, a TDI is quite reasonable to maintain. The only expensive part is the timing belt which most aren't due until 60k-100k miles. I suspect the Liberty will be fairly easy to maintain. Diesels don't usually need much more/less than gassers, with the possible exception of fuel filters.
#62 of 10709 jimlockey by bpeebles Sep 24, 2003 (5:19 pm)
Yup.. you are right, there are dealers that make a mint off of some people. Dont blame the VEHICLE just because of an unscrupulus dealership.   The only reason I brought up the VW here in this forum is to alert people that they can COMPARE the very different power delivery between gas-and-diesel right now at a VW dealership.   It is predicted that over the next 5 years, there will be almost TRIPPLE the diesels that are on the roads today in the USA. Once folks realize 50MPG along with more power when they need it, they will FLOCK to the diesesl verions of their favorite vehicles.   If DC delivers a reliable diesel engine, the diesel Jeep Liberty will be one of those sought-after vehicles.
#63 of 10709 diesel mileage by jimlockey Sep 25, 2003 (1:47 pm)
My average MPG / with auto trans for my 2002 New Beetle TDI was 35MPG. City driving was 33, highway driving was 38 to 44. All this depends on speed,wind conditions and how heavy your foot is. Remember this was only a 90 HP diesel engine.   I figure the Liberty diesel w/automatic will get close to the mileage of a Honda Accord V6 w/auto trans, but that's not the whole story. The torque will be outstanding.
#64 of 10709 diesel mileage by bpeebles Sep 26, 2003 (2:01 am)
(jimlockey) There was somthing wrong with your TDI. I AVERAGE 50MPG.... and have touched 54MPG on some tankfuls. I have NEVER got less than 600 miles to a tank even before broken in.... Now, I always get over 650 miles per tank of fuel.   Also... you say this was "only" a 90 HP diesel engine. When that TDI is delivering "only" 90 HP... the same displacement gasoline engine would be produciing perhaps 75 HP. (Even though the gasoline engine may be rated at 175 HP in the higher RPMs) My point is that one cannot use PEAK HORSEPOWER as a means to compare gasoline to diesel engines.   You are right on when you say "The torque will be outstanding."
#65 of 10709 90 HP diesel engine by abc246 Sep 26, 2003 (3:45 am)
is a sloowwww. I have been test driving them a few times trying to warm up to the TDI, but can't. The TDI may have torque, but has NO acceleration from a stop. Try merging on a freeway with 75 mph traffic, good luck. VW states nearly 15 sec 0 to 60 with auto! This is progress? I hope the Jeep is better than this. I actually get sick driving the TDI with auto.
#66 of 10709 abc246/others by sebring95 Sep 26, 2003 (4:59 am)
Somethings funky if you can't merge with traffic with a TDI. I have a steep ramp I regularly merge with at least 70mph traffic. My 5.3L V8 Tahoe (which is rated for 0-60 in 8 seconds according to the mags) struggles more than my TDI up that ramp. You're either redlining the motor (which puts the engine well beyond it's usable power range) or are driving some duds.   I do have a VA smart box though which makes a difference. Maybe 15hp. The Automatics will scoot pretty good once you learn the shifting and the tranny learns your driving style. Took me about a month to really click with it.   Jim's beetle tdi is an automatic which typically doesn't do as well on mpg as the manual. I still get well into the 40's on the highway, usually around 45mpg. If I happen to do some city driving or 100mph runs, it drops quickly. I think my all-time low was 37mpg, all-time high 50mpg. I'm 99% on the highway though so the manual really wouldn't be much more fun. I just set the cruise and leave it, even through the mountains it never downshifts. I got a very good deal on my auto TDI (used) and my wife won't drive a manual tranny. She loves driving the TDI when it's just her running around which keeps the miles/fuel out of the Tahoe and Audi A6 which is nearly as thirsty.
#67 of 10709 Cost of Liberty diesel engine by renegaded Oct 05, 2003 (6:54 pm)
If you follow the press releases, DC said in one statement that the diesel would add about $10,000!!! Next statement... they're going to subsidize it, to get into the market. Realistically, compare a Limited with 3.7 vs. with 2.8 diesel...go to the U.K. web site - 1,000 pounds sterling; go to the Aussie site - 2,500 Aussie dollars. Both of these put you at approx $1,500 U.S. Keep your fingers crossed. http://www.chryslerjeep.co.uk/ use TW19 6AJ as your postal code (my buddies house) or http://www.chrysler-jeep.com.au/ My order has been in since April 03 - top of the line.
#69 of 10709 $10,000 cost by sebring95 Oct 06, 2003 (5:10 am)
If you follow the press releases, DC said in one statement that the diesel would add about $10,000!!!   They must be including all the cost of training, service parts, and everything in the book to come up with that number. I'll grab a Jeep liberty off the dealer lot and stick one of those diesel in it myself paying retail prices and end up spending less than $10,000 on the retrofit. Someone is pulling legs. Even $10,000 canadian is way too much for a light-duty diesel like this. A Cummins is only a $4,000 option on a Ram, and you know they're making money on those babies.
#70 of 10709 $10,000 by jimlockey Oct 06, 2003 (1:04 pm)
I'm sure the $10,000 was a typo. Most manufacturers raise the cost of diesels from one to two thousand. Who knows, time will tell. If DC is real smart they will add the diesel to several vehiles.

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