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Jeep Liberty, Biodiesel, Diesel, SUV
#10824 of 11454 Re: 2006 Liberty CRD Alternator Defect [warren9]
Mar 13, 2010 (6:57 pm)
I gather you are speaking of the F37 recall. I did it shortly after it was announced and before I received a recall notice. The Jeep had to go to the shop for EGR failure so I had both things done at the same time. In spite of the recall, I have had to replace the TC (this is number three) because it failed. Should this one fail, then I am going to purchase a Suncoast TC or ATS TC and a shift kit and that should be the end of that issue.
My fuel economy did not suffer and in fact over time has gotten better. At nearly 63K miles, fuel economy is better than it ever was when newer.
If your fuel economy has taken that much of a nosedive, then somebody screwed up something.
#10825 of 11454 Re: good repair shop in or near Boston ? [rkopper]
Mar 14, 2010 (10:23 am)
I would love to point you to a good shop, but I live just outside of Washington D.C. Unfortunately, there are few to no shops outside of the dealer that will touch the CRD and some will not even do basic maintenance items like an oil change or transmission service.
I do have a good dealer and with a good technician here in Rockville, Maryland but that might be a wee bit far for you to travel for what you need.
#10826 of 11454 Re: Timing Belt Replacement [winter2]
Mar 23, 2010 (12:01 pm)
Winter, BTW thanks for all your help on my EGR issue. My CRD in running fine now. I smoke it at least every other day and that keeps the carbon out. That said I just went over 100K. The maintenance manual says I need to replace the timing belt, idler pulleys,etc, the antifreeze, thermostat, fuel/water separator etc. I am running original water pump, alternator and things seem fine. My question is when should all his stuff be done. I understand preventative maintence but when I removed and replaced the serpentne belt it was not even cracked. Sooooo what has been your experience or any one elses in this regard. FYI I can't find the belt kit and buying it indvidual from the dealer is a no go price wise. Any good parts places where I can get the kit. Antifreeze and other stuff is available locally here in WV but the kit is not. Appreciate any info.
#10827 of 11454 Still happy but
Mar 23, 2010 (12:56 pm)
I just came back from a trip to North Carolina, I left Morgantown, WV and arrived at Kill Devil Hills and checked the fuel mileage and it was 30.5. This diesel continues to amaze me and I like the handling and ride. It is a very comfortable vehicle to take on a trip and it now has over 50000 miles on it and 25000 of those for being all trouble free for me. But I am without a warranty and the expensive repairs that can and do come up have me worried. I have looked into trading and have got a really great offer from a dealer on a AWD Sorento. I hate to give up the Jeep but I am very concerned that it could get pricey to keep.
#10828 of 11454 Re: Timing Belt Replacement [axelf66]
Mar 23, 2010 (4:48 pm)
As to replacing the timing belt, do it. If it fails or any other component in that system fails, it usually happens at the worst possible time. If the timing belt fails and a valve is left open, then the follower associated with that valve will break if the piston hits the valve, to prevent valve and piston damage and that costs money to fix beside the cost of maintenance. As to when you should do the PM is your call.
As to buying certain parts for the CRD, it is an unfortunate problem that we are stuck buying certain parts from the dealer because no one has stepped up in the after market to make a replacement part. The CRD is a limited run vehicle so very few after market components were made for it. There are about 11,000 of us here in the U.S.
If I find anyone who carries a timing belt, water pump besides the dealer, I will let you know.
#10829 of 11454 Re: Still happy but [wvav8tor]
Mar 23, 2010 (4:51 pm)
Before you trade your CRD for a Sorrento, take a look at what long term maintenance will cost you for that vehicle. Remember, the Sorrento is car based, not truck based like the CRD and AWD systems get problematic as they age.
#10830 of 11454 Re: Still happy but [winter2]
Mar 23, 2010 (5:56 pm)
My experience with AWD is that the "A" has to be laid over to look like a "4" on the back of a car. Other than that, there is no comparison.
#10831 of 11454 Re: Still happy but [gh1961]
Mar 24, 2010 (11:03 am)
The CRD four wheel drive system is not a full time system such as on the Subaru, Hyundai or others. I make the decision when to engage or disengage 4WD and not a computer and a set of clutches. Also, I have part time and full time 4WD (HI) and full time (LO). The latter is used for climbing up steep grades, slogging through mud and pulling out stuck Subaru' s and stuck Kia's that are trying to be Jeeps.
Since AWD systems always have some level of engagement in 4WD, there is more and tear on the system and more overall fuel consumption.
#10832 of 11454 Re: Still happy but [winter2]
Mar 24, 2010 (12:51 pm)
I am very frustrated with the 4 wheel drive system on the Jeep, because if the ESC I was stuck several times this year in my own driveway. There is no way to fully disengage ESC, it is hard enough trying to pull yourself out of a hole without having the computer bog the engine down to almost an idle and trying to drag at least one locked up wheel because of the ABS.
If this element had not been involved I know it would have pulled its self out, hell even my wifeís Sonata will completely disengage the ESC when you push the release button. I have owned AWD vehicles in the past and aside from ground clearance they are far superior in snow and on slick surfaces than the 4 wheel drive system of the Liberty.
This is another reason for deciding the trade (which because of economics I may not be able to) I donít know why Jeep wonít let you decide when the need arises to let you completely disengage the ESC. In my opinion it is the Achilles heel of the Liberty.
I am not here to trash the Liberty diesel in fact in my previous post I bragged on its strengths and I have really enjoyed its ownership the last 2 years but I do worry about repair cost and the weakened 4 wheel drive capability. I do plan if I keep the jeep through next winter to place a switch on the fuse for the ABS pump to turn it off when I get stuck. It would seem to me that this would help a great deal, at least I wonít be dragging a locked up wheel while trying to remove myself from deep snow.
#10833 of 11454 Re: Still happy but [wvav8tor]
Mar 24, 2010 (2:26 pm)
Try Low Range...... I got stuck in some deep sand and recall thinking the front
end was engaged so I shifted into low range just to make sure and as it turned out I got my self out. Maybe low range disables it for some reason..
If ound this reference in:
The brakes work well and are the same in all models with discs in front, drums in the rear. ABS ($600) is optional, and they work well: In low range, the anti-lock brake system allows some wheel lock for off-road situations -- such as descending steep gravel hills -- where skidding is a good thing. On the road, the ABS allows less skidding for improved control steering control, but there is some lockup for shorter stopping distances.