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Re: Oil Pan Blues [jkievit240] by caribou1
Sep 20, 2009 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: jkievit240 (Sep 19, 2009 4:54 pm)

Could you post a picture showing access to your oil pan? Mine is easily accessible from underneath and there is enough metal to repair the thread.
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Re: Tire question and speaker question [winter2] by tired_old_dave
Sep 20, 2009 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: winter2 (Sep 15, 2009 6:06 pm)

A lot of us are always looking for the best tire. I think recently one of the cheap subscription off road magazines (free? after using 20% harbor freight coupons) said that and there have been tire comparisons. Like you, I have never had a good goodyear or michelin. (Noticed though that at the "Rack that the AT2's replaced Firestone as No 1.) Put Yokohama geolanders on a ford conversion van when they came out - removed the famous LTX MS. Won't consider those again either. Good things on the net about Cooper - accidently found a site for snow removal pickup trucks - they liked Cooper AT. Darby W. a good while backed I believe mentioned the SST's and then I believe they were replaced. Best Pirelli ever had was the P77 unidirectional (Hard riding but never gave up). Loved Comp TA on the Previa short lived but that high speed sport car handling was great.
 
Ended up getting Toyo AT (2ply sidewall load range D) at Screamin Lizard for the H3. (The original H3 tires, Bridgestone RH-S rated poorly at Tirerack were load range C but 3ply sidewall.) Ride is softer, handling crisper, and less strain on the front but de minimus sidewall flex? exists (not an issue though). The feel just might be the lack of that strong 3ply sidewall for the last three years. Toyo said to keep recommended tire pressure of 35. Never have done that and won't start now. Does Toyo still allow a 60 day return policy?
 
Toyo made in China, didn't want to do that but if the tariff is added to the prices, then more options (higher prices) will be considered in the future.
 
Good luck.
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Re: Oil Pan Blues [caribou1] by jkievit240
Sep 20, 2009 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: caribou1 (Sep 20, 2009 9:20 am)

Actually, that part is easy. The location is very accessible. After doing some
more research, the "shadetree" method of epoxying the threads of the
aftermarket oil drain valve sounds good for probably a $25 investment. Plan
"B" is probably an 18/1.5mm TimeSert repair kit & 18mm drain valve at around
$250. This sounded like the hot set up that several people came up with at
another forum. The kit has a drill, tap, tap guide and thread insert tool and inserts.
Kind of expensive for a tool I'll use once and probably never use again...
BTW, the original thread in the pan is neither metric or SAE, it's apparently
some ^&$# oddball British Whitworth or something. anyway, opinions, ideas?
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Re: Tire question and speaker question [tired_old_dave] by winter2
Sep 20, 2009 (5:09 pm)
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Replying to: tired_old_dave (Sep 20, 2009 10:36 am)

Dave,
 
I have taken Toyo of off my short list of tires. I am looking at Avon Tyres as well as a private brand made by Cooper.
 
I used Avon Tyres on two vehicles some many years ago and I found them to be quite good in wet or dry conditions and adequate in snow. They were "H" rated and the concept of "all season" had yet to appear, so I had snow tires in both cases.
 
The private brand from Cooper, American Prospector SUV, has a fairly aggressive tread pattern and is about $95.00. The Avons, from Tire Rack are $94 (including shipping) and are marked as a closeout on the Tire Rack website. I will need to investigate this further.
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Re: Oil Pan Blues [jkievit240] by desmo750ss
Sep 21, 2009 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: jkievit240 (Sep 20, 2009 5:00 pm)

Well, me too. I recently changed the oil and the threads gave out. Apparently the pan is made out of soft aluminum. as when I tightened it at about the right torque, I felt it give way. This weekend I will measure the threads and then custom make a tap that is 1 or 2 mm wider and have my machine shop buddy make me a new plug (if it is not available for another brand) The tap is about $150 plus the plug. I'll keep you informed.
The engine is made by VM in Italy so I do not expect it to be anything but metric. Maybe an odd metric size but metric for sure. If it is BS/Whitworth, I'm all set as I restore old British bikes so I'm ready for any thread size!!!
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Re: Tire question and speaker question [winter2] by tired_old_dave
Sep 21, 2009 (3:14 pm)
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Replying to: winter2 (Sep 20, 2009 5:09 pm)

Winter,
 
Curious why Toyo was dropped. Usually buy from Discount tire and get road forced balancing. Bought toyo spectrum from another chain before trading in malibu. The middle wore out real fast and store apologized for the lousy spectrums. Down to Cooper and Toyo and went with Toyo based on trust from Sean at the 'Lizard.
 
Bought a used '68 R69S/US BMW about '70 that had bald Pirelli's that chunked rubber. Took a long fast highway trip before replacing and when the tire was pulled, we found dozens of pieces of metal parts in the tread that never punctured the tube. Believe replaced those with Avon Tyres. Don't think I ever had a problem with them. Total knowledge of Avon Tyres.
 
"Fairly agreesive pattern" Procomp has buy three get one free. Like wet traction and sipes, but the wrangler's bfg mudders have no sipes. Will probably stick to mudders for the rubicon and I believe Toyo MT has at least one sipe per block. Went AT with better_half's H3 because it's her daily driver and a keeper. The wrangler is our interstate cruiser and fun vehicle for now. Good luck and keep us all informed. Like Red Green-"I'm pulling for you, We're all in this together".
 
Dave
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2.8l tool kit by isx
Sep 28, 2009 (6:51 pm)
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Hi everyone, just joined the forum. I have a 2005 liberty CRD. I have not had any problems with my liberty it is great. No EGRs, no sensor problems. Only just the ball joint and torque converter recalls. I just bought a complete engine tool kit for the CRD off ebay. Thought I would let anyone know in N. Colorado if they want to do any work to their liberty I would let them borrow a tool or two. I could provide some help or do the work for you. I am a ASE master diesel mechanic. I am not trying to make a ton of money just trying to help out my fellow diesel lovers.
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check engine codes by gunnar2
Sep 29, 2009 (8:51 am)
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hello folks,
i've seen a lot of good info on this forum. i have a question that i'm sure has been asked since there are frequent posts on obd2 codes. i recently bought a reader and would like to know where i can access a list of jeep liberty/diesel manufacturer specific codes. when i do searches i've seen them for wranglers in austrailia, etc. but not for liberty diesels.
thanks for you continued interesting discussions.
gunnar2
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Re: check engine codes [gunnar2] by caribou1
Sep 29, 2009 (12:34 pm)
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Replying to: gunnar2 (Sep 29, 2009 8:51 am)

Hi gunnar2,
Have a look here:
http://richard.fortin.free.fr/Jeepforfun/2005-KJ-Powertrain-Diesel.pdf
Most codes should be common to newer trucks.
 
What are you looking for? I collected a lot of information since 2003 and it was as useful as a life insurance: someone must die to recuperate the principal
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Is your truck reliable? by rutabaga1973
Sep 30, 2009 (5:33 pm)
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Hey y'all,
  
Hoping I'm posting this in the right place. I'm looking at buying a Liberty CRD with 70K miles. It's well maintained, with one owner, and has been checked by my mechanic. But have no sense of how reliable this model is. Can I count on it to run for another 70K? Am I going to have to be doing expensive fixes, regularly, as I approach 100K? If you have one, or have an opinion, please weigh in!

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