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Re: milage [tnilc99] by siberia
May 06, 2009 (7:03 pm)
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Replying to: tnilc99 (May 02, 2009 12:09 am)

If some one can figure out how to raise the rear end ratio up
a bit to allow 75 mph to be achieved at 2000 rpm that would be ideal.

 
Tnilc99, you can get 74 mph at 2,000 rpm by changing to 225/85/16 tires. Taller tires will go through deep snow and mud a little better - given the same tread. Others have done this but I don't recommend it because it adversely affects handling a little (your want to drive faster) and makes the torque converter issue worse.
 
As far as changing the gear ratio you would have to change ring gear and pinion in both the front and rear differentials. This is not cheap to do and you would still have the torque converter problem. Also, going with taller gears reduces you towing capacity a little. I don't think you have that much to gain here. I get a dependable 29.5 mpg on the highway at 1,900 rpm and 66 mph (summer fuel).
 
What's the difference what part of the torque convert fails? Lets tell it like it is. The CRD has a very good tough little transmission and torque converter (better with the recall) that stands up to the torque of the Hemi V8 but not the impulse torque of this nasty little VM diesel. Even the upgraded SunCoast converters are not holding up for some people.
 
Here's the way I look at it. If I stomp the pedal off the line my rear tires get cremated. If I hit the throttle just right a 54 mph and 1,700 rpm I can get the converter to judder (slip) at 1,800 rpm. My solution is to not do either one, for now.
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Re: milage [caribou1] by tnilc99
May 06, 2009 (10:50 pm)
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Replying to: caribou1 (May 06, 2009 6:22 am)

Caribou, Thanks a million that break down and operation explanation within the
transmission manuel helped to gain the understanding as to whats going on
during a function cycle of the converter. Now I can draw a mental picture as to
whats happening internally. You know the old saying a picture is worth a thousand
words. Guess I need to order the Jeep liberty cd manuel and I will now.
I have to say this forum and the other one lost jeeps has allowed me to this point
to fix every issue I have had over the last 3 years. Its nice not to have to depend
on the stealership to get results.
If you happen to run across that Thesis you mentioned, it sure would be nice if you
would post its web address.
Thanks again
 
Tnilc99
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Re: milage [tnilc99] by mdamick
May 07, 2009 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: tnilc99 (May 02, 2009 7:32 pm)

It is a small 2 speed transmission that mounts between the transfer case and rear axle.
I have see a small automatic unit that might work, it is usually used on larger trucks but it might fit.
 
http://www.gearvendors.com/index.html
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Re: milage [mdamick] by caribou1
May 07, 2009 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: mdamick (May 07, 2009 10:49 am)

Isn't this overdrive what was used on manual shifting cars 25 years ago?
I had one on a GM that used the rotation of the transmission shaft to produce it's own hydraulic pressure. Then a 12V solenoid let the fluid push a wedge clutch that engaged the overdrive. As the car would come to a stop, the clutch came back into 1:1 ratio.
The question is: how fast does this gearbox shift when you are in an emergency braking situation and when the ABS comes into action?
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Re: milage [caribou1] by mdamick
May 08, 2009 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: caribou1 (May 07, 2009 12:44 pm)

I have never used it, just saw it on the website.
It looks like the one you described, possibly the same manufacturer.
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Re: milage [mdamick] by tnilc99
May 12, 2009 (8:48 pm)
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Replying to: mdamick (May 07, 2009 10:49 am)

Thanks Mdamick for the reply, I will definitely look into this option, hell it may be
just the edge Im looking for.
 
Tnilc99
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AC compressor causing PCM to fail? by desmo750ss
May 19, 2009 (1:58 pm)
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This is what the dealer said from a service bulletin. Apparently the diode in the clutch assy is defective causing the PCM to fail.
My 55Kmi CRD just died on the road with many engine codes. First they blamed that I ran out of fuel (with 1/4 left) then they said it was blowing fuses and was a bad harness. Now, after they spent 4 billable hours, they say its a bad PCM due to the bad diode. The good news is the PCM is under the 8/80 warranty. The bad news is that the labor and parts to replace the ac clutch is 1291 plus tax.
Does this sound right or?........
Thanks
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Re: AC compressor causing PCM to fail? [desmo750ss] by mdamick
May 20, 2009 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: desmo750ss (May 19, 2009 1:58 pm)

It is possible.
The diode is used to block the spike caused by the shutting off of power to the coil that runs the clutch. That spike could cause all sorts of things to happen in the PCM.
 
I think $1300 for the A/C clutch is high, for that they must be replacing the whole compressor. The parts manual does not show the clutch as a separate part.
 
If you have an 8/80 warranty, why doesn't it also cover the A/C?
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Re: AC compressor causing PCM to fail? [mdamick] by desmo750ss
May 20, 2009 (11:07 am)
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Replying to: mdamick (May 20, 2009 10:37 am)

1300 includes the diagnosis of the problem. The PCM is covered under the emissions warranty but the AC clutch is not I only have the extended drivetrain warrantee so no coverage there. First they wanted to replace the entire AC compressor assy ($1790 quoted) but I argued successfully to only change the clutch and they agreed.
Hans

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