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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [mdamick] by fust
Nov 20, 2008 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: mdamick (Nov 19, 2008 11:58 am)

They said that by replacing the water pump now it would save on labor because you basically have to remove the belt again to replace the pump and there would be no extra labour charges if done know , the cost of the water pump was $350.00.Not sure if it worth the risk,has anyone replaced there timing belt and water pump at the same time Thanks.
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [fust] by mdamick
Nov 20, 2008 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: fust (Nov 20, 2008 1:32 pm)

How many miles do you have on your CRD?
I have 128000 on the stock fan and timing belts.
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [mdamick] by caribou1
Nov 21, 2008 (1:48 am)
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Replying to: mdamick (Nov 20, 2008 2:35 pm)

Can you guys imagine that Chrysler / Jeep impose to change the timing belt at 60,000 miles here? Automobile manufacturers in the EU consider maintenance as a source of pension
Asian manufacturers are doing well because of a different consumer approach. We will soon see which attitude survives.
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [caribou1] by farout
Nov 21, 2008 (12:32 pm)
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Replying to: caribou1 (Nov 19, 2008 8:42 am)

Caribou1: Yes French Friend I did indeed read your post. I read these post's often. I feel bad so many of you have experienced the high dollar repairs. OUCH, that just gota hurt bunches!
 
I kinda kept up on resale value of the CRD in the NADA book. The CRD has taken a big hit. But in all fairness every vehicle in the auto auction have taken a dump. Our son has a used vehicle dealers buyers permit for the big auctions. Heck our 2007 Chrysler pacifica AWD Touring is worth about 1/2 half of what we owe on it. The huge difference between the Pacifica and the CRD is we really like the Pacifica and the low cost of keeping it up. We consistently get 22 to 25 mpg and with 28,700 miles it is perfect for us. Gasoline here is $1.69 a gallon and diesel is $ 2.65 so that is one thing I don't miss is the extra money for diesel. How is the price there?
 
The economy is a scary thing here for a good number of folks. Unless the "Big Three" get some $ real soon I think we are headed for deeper financial troubles, that most likely spread to many other countries. When dealers can't finance the cars to put on the lots, and buyers are less likely to be able to get financing that means real trouble. Even with the US giving the $ for the big three, unless people can get $ to purchase the vehicles the Big Three will be dead in the water. I am glad I don't earn a living selling vehicles!
 
Hows the economy in France? Hope you and yours are doing well.
 
farout, but still near......lol
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [farout] by caribou1
Nov 21, 2008 (1:06 pm)
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Replying to: farout (Nov 21, 2008 12:32 pm)

Hi farout,
We're in the same mess
I try to buy stuff ahead of time because good things are getting scarce. Less $, less offer, less customers, and what happens when you're missing a replacement part? You're stuck.
As we discussed a long time ago on this forum, automobile parts are common and are made everywhere. If the big three don't survive, we all loose.
 
Someone made the following comment today:
- The Chinese replaced their bicycles by automobiles,
- In Paris, the mayor is replacing our automobiles by bicycles
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [caribou1] by mdamick
Nov 21, 2008 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: caribou1 (Nov 21, 2008 1:48 am)

Our book says 100000 mi.
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [mdamick] by caribou1
Nov 21, 2008 (1:23 pm)
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Replying to: mdamick (Nov 21, 2008 1:10 pm)

Ours may have been translated by someone who doesn't know what "mi" stands for
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [fust] by siberia
Nov 21, 2008 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: fust (Nov 20, 2008 1:32 pm)

It is standard procedure on VW TDIs to change the belts, idlers, belt tensioner, water pump and bolts with every timing belt change. Complete kits can be bought for around $300 that include everything needed. Depending on the mechanic (independent or dealership) the cost ranges from, say, $600 to $1500. The argument is that most water pumps will run 100k miles but many will not run 200k miles. $2,000 for timing belt, water pump, etc replacement may be some what reasonable for a CRD.
 
A fiend owns a Honda CRV and has spent $1,500 for each timing belt / water pump change so some gas engines that need timing belt changes are not cheap. I think a lot of gas cars are just driven without concern for timing belt changes and if the belt doesn't break fine. If the belt does break the car is approaching it's useful life anyway and the response of the owner to the mechanic is, What's a timing belt and why did it destroy my engine?
 
The expectation of diesel owners is that the engines will run much longer so the timing belts (should) get better attention.
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [mdamick] by siberia
Nov 21, 2008 (8:03 pm)
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Replying to: mdamick (Nov 20, 2008 2:35 pm)

It would be nice to know what is the mean and standard deviation of timing belt failures found during testing. Timing belts don't really fail due to miles (exactly), they fail due to load, hours, age, contamination, operating temperature, original quality and the like.
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [farout] by winter2
Nov 23, 2008 (6:14 pm)
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Replying to: farout (Nov 21, 2008 12:32 pm)

Hello Farout,
 
Nice to see you post again. I see you are enjoying your Pacifica.
 
My CRD is doing reasonably well. The weak link is the torque converter. If it fails again, it gets an aftermarket (Suncoast) TC, a trans kit and that should be the end of transmission issues.
 
Frankly, I am happy that I have hung onto my CRD. It has been very reliable and the dealer I have been using has been fabulous. Their tech has taught me a few tricks to help maintain my CRD properly.
 
As for the cost of diesel, I last paid $2.559 cash. Fuel economy has remained quite good with mixed city highway at 23 MPG and straight highway between 29 - 31 MPG. In spite of the higher fuel cost, the CRD is significantly cheaper to drive than the gas counterpart.
 
In January, my wife and I will be driving to Florida with the CRD. Her 1998 Chrysler Concorde with 2.7 L V-6 gets 28 MPG on the road but she finds the CRD safer and more comfortable. The CRD also has better pulling power at high speeds than the Chrysler.

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