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#10226 of 10671 Re: second dead battery [fust] by diesel_farmer Oct 22, 2008 (5:01 pm)
Replying to: fust (Oct 22, 2008 2:09 pm) My original Optima spiral AGM battery was replaced at around 20k miles on a recall of the battery with a Mopar spiral AGM battery. The Mopar spiral AGM battery lasted less than 2 years and I tried to get it replaced under the battery warranty but was told by Chrysler that it was covered under the 3 year 36k mile warranty since it was a recall replacement. (Anyone find any logic in that please let me know!) The dealer wanted $180 installed for another Mopar spiral AGM battery so I told them to piss off and went to Auto Zone and bought a $100 8 year battery that has the same specs as the $180 Mopar spiral AGM battery and the $160 OPTIMA Red Top spiral AGM battery. At the time my 2006 Jeep Liberty Diesel had 80k miles on it. It now has 91k miles on the clock.   Here are the OPTIMA specs:   Group Number: 34 (9002-002) RedTop®; Battery; Group 34; Cold Crank Amps 800; Crank Amps 1000; Reserve Capacity 110; Ampere Hour 50; Top Terminal; L-10 in.; W-6 7/8 in.; H-7 13/16 in.; BOXED;   Here are the Auto Zone Gold-Duralast for a 2006 Jeep Liberty 4WD flat plate battery specs:   O.E. group size: 34 *** 800 cold cranking Amps (1000 cranking Amps) *** -> 3 year free replacement  Duralast Gold Battery   With 3 year free replacement and 8 year warranty, I do not see the logic in spending the additional money on a AGM battery from either OPTIMA or Mopar. Do you?
#10227 of 10671 Re: second dead battery [fust] by storageguy Oct 22, 2008 (6:49 pm)
Replying to: fust (Oct 22, 2008 2:09 pm) A previous blog message suggests that if you have a factory installed trailer hitch and plug that juice is contantly flowing and this may contribute to the battery failure. I had one battery replacement in my 06 with only 42K miles and I make a point of removing the key from the ignition when parked, I don't know if this makes sense but its worked for me.
#10228 of 10671 Re: second dead battery [fust] by caribou1 Oct 23, 2008 (12:27 am)
Replying to: fust (Oct 22, 2008 2:09 pm) Hi fust, - 14.5 Volts is the "standard" voltage for charging a 6 element lead-acid battery. - 13.6 Volts is just not enough.   I tried charging at 13.6 Volts to maintain an unused battery over the winter season; the battery seems to build up lead oxide on both anode and cathode plates. Using fresh or sufficiently dosed electrolyte doesn't help either. The result is waisted effort and need to buy a new battery.   Older batteries were disassembled, their electrodes were cleaned (by hand) with a brush, then rebuilt, filled with new electrolyte and charged. This took half a day. I remember seeing this done here in Geneva in the late 60's. The make was OERLIKON and this is the make I use today   When you buy a new battery, check it's voltage before connecting to the vehicle. It should range between 12.7 Volts and 13.3 Volts. So if you don't put the extra energy to build a 14.5 Voltage across the battery, it will chemically balance close to nil (due to lead oxide build up on all electrodes).   My red top "Optima" didn't last long (~5 years). I chose a standard battery sized for a common diesel engine, with less cold cranking power (we use 100% synthetic oil this should not be an issue). Dims: 278x175x190 mm (OPTIMA was 254x172x200mm) Mounting type: B13 70 Amp during 10 hours 640 Amp cold cranking I prefer not to mention the cost   OERLIKON and OPTIMA both belong to "Johnson Controls Inc"
#10229 of 10671 Re: second dead battery [fust] by synlubes Oct 23, 2008 (4:12 am)
Replying to: fust (Oct 22, 2008 2:09 pm) i have sold these batteries for over twenty years average life about five to ten years caribo is right 14.4 is what it should have the battery in the crd is smaller than the standard optima it was made smaller for some reason
#10230 of 10671 DEAD BATTERY by fust Oct 23, 2008 (6:04 am)
THANK-YOU FOR ALL THE REPLYS I QUESS WHAT I AM ASKING IS THERE A CHANCE MY ALTERNATOR IS AT FAULT BECAUSE READING THE SERVICE MANUAL IT INDICATES THESE BATTERIES SHOULD NOT BE CHARGED AT MORE THAN 14.4 VOLTS AND WHEN I READ THE VOLTAGE ACROSS THE BATTERY WHILE THE TRUCK RUNNING IT WAS 14.6, DOES ANY ONE KNOW WHAT THE VOLTAGE ACROSS THERE BATTERY IS WHEN THERE VEHICLE IS RUNNING ,ANY RESPONSE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. Replies to this message: caribou1 (Oct 23, 2008 7:24 am) nescosmo (Oct 23, 2008 9:02 pm) emp2 (Oct 23, 2008 5:19 pm) mdamick (Oct 24, 2008 4:06 pm) emp2 (Oct 25, 2008 11:16 am) mdamick (Oct 28, 2008 8:27 am)
#10231 of 10671 Re: DEAD BATTERY [fust] by caribou1 Oct 23, 2008 (7:24 am)
Replying to: fust (Oct 23, 2008 6:04 am) 14.6 Volts is what you should have when the engine is running   - Never forget there is always an error on a Voltmeter, even when it's a digital. - Normally there is a 'fused link' between the alternator and the battery. - You have an alternator problem when your lights dim near idle speed. - You have a battery problem when your lights dim during startup.   Jeep Toledo plant may loose 1,800 jobs according to Financial news   Last point: when you measure a certain voltage on the leads, this doesn't mean the inside of the battery is getting it Replies to this message: nescosmo (Oct 23, 2008 9:02 pm)
#10232 of 10671 Re: DEAD BATTERY [fust] by emp2 Oct 23, 2008 (5:19 pm)
Replying to: fust (Oct 23, 2008 6:04 am) I get 14.3 volts with motor running . I would not think your reading of 14.5 would be enough over to hurt your battery . Had you considered contacting OPTIMA BATTERY on your problem . Also the slight differance in the readng might be yor meter . Also the reading my meter gave may be slightly off also .
#10233 of 10671 Re: DEAD BATTERY [caribou1] by nescosmo Oct 23, 2008 (9:02 pm)
Replying to: caribou1 (Oct 23, 2008 7:24 am) Caribou1 they are loosing their jobs because the company do not want to put diesel engine in America any more. they want to loose money than to make money. My motto is loose some and make it in the volume sale, but it seems that dodge want to go down and close their doors. I think that we all are going to drive Indian vehicle in the not distance future.   Nescosmo.......
#10234 of 10671 Re: DEAD BATTERY [fust] by mdamick Oct 24, 2008 (4:06 pm)
Replying to: fust (Oct 23, 2008 6:04 am) I have a compass, thermometer, volt meter unit plugged into the lighter. I have seen no higher than 13.5V on a cold morning and no lower than 12.8V on a hot day. I have not put a real meter on it to see if it is way out of spec, but those are my readings. Replies to this message: emp2 (Oct 25, 2008 11:16 am) mdamick (Oct 28, 2008 8:27 am)
#10235 of 10671 egr resolution by tnilc99 Oct 24, 2008 (10:53 pm)
Hey guys, Ok I know that there is got to be a way to do a work around with the egr system. I also know that you can increase your mileage by bypassing this pain in the butt useless system. I currently run b-100 with a slight kick, and have logged 30k on just bio. I have incorporated a hydrogen generator and external propane feed which has my milage up to 29 mpg. I think I can jack that up another 3 - 5 miles if I could get some helpfull ideas from folks that think outside the box like me. I have 2005 liberty crd. Thanks for any and all feedback in advance. Replies to this message: mdamick (Oct 29, 2008 9:44 am)

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