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#8 of 17 Thanks for advice
Mar 04, 2003 (11:00 pm)
Thanks for the response so far. To answer a couple of above questions - yes - I have records of service on both vehicles. And oil changes were 3 to 4 thousand miles on the Ford, more often on the Chevy because 6 months rolled around more often than the 3-thousand mile oil change recommedation. Also - the reason one needs to go - is to save on insurance. My dad - who's retired - owns the cars and only drives a few miles a day at the most - and he's decided he only wants to maintain one car. Thanks for advice so far - more responses are welcome. DWW2
Mar 08, 2003 (5:19 am)
amount of misinformation here. I owned a 93 Escort wagon. So here are some facts:
The A/C System is R 12
The timing belt is not an issue with these cars. That was a problem with the previous generation of Escorts.
The engine is not interfence. I had a water pump seize, the timing belt drives the pump and there was no damage.
The car isn't a Mazda. The Suspension and the trans (I had 5 speed)is Mazda. Most of the car is Ford and I'd stack mine up with any Toyota, Nissan etc. It was a good ride and it didn't break! The 1.9 liter engine is Ford. The 1.8 is Mazda. Most Escorts from 91 model year on had the 1.9.Believe they upraded the engine to 2.0 liters in 97. It is an extremely reliable motor.
Be careful to what you read/believe on these boards. There are to many people with opinions who don't know what they are talking about!
#10 of 17 Sorry, I guess you didn't see my qualifier...
Mar 08, 2003 (8:26 am)
The Escort is probably an R134A A/C car, while the Cavi is certainly R12. If that goes out, it will be a bit pricey to get fixed on the Chebby.
I didn't say it certainly was R134a, only probably, guess I was wrong.
I'd still take the Escort over the Chevy, miles and all.
Mar 08, 2003 (9:06 am)
The Gates site has some errors in it, so be careful with that.
#12 of 17 You're right
Mar 08, 2003 (6:03 pm)
I didn't see your qualifier.
The escort is 10 years OLD AND THE Cavalier is 16. Personally I wouldn't touch either one of them.Too late in the game for me. Then again I don't know how this owner will use the car.
The other post goes on about the car being a Mazda. The fact is they are not Mazdas.Don't know what his point is about aging and complexity. Is the Escort any different than any other economy car? You're not talking about a BMW here.
Mar 11, 2003 (7:16 pm)
The racecort is way past it's "drop dead" mileage, and the cavalier is almost there. Please deposit both vehicles at your nearest auto salvage yard and buy something reliable, like an import.
#14 of 17 My Mazda comment...
Mar 12, 2003 (6:39 am)
...basically, Ford threw in the towel after 1990 when it comes to small cars. The '91 Escort is the same basic car as the 1991 Mazda Protege. It's basically a Protege with an engine from the old Ford Escort thrown in, and Ford sheetmetal.
Technically it was called a joint venture, but what that boils down to is that essentially, Mazda built that car for Ford, just like Toyota builds the Vibe for GM.
As for complexity, well a '93 Escort is 7 years newer than an '86 Cavalier, which was pretty obsolete even in '86, so naturally the Escort is going to be more complicated. The Escort's automatic is a 4-speed, whereas the Cav's is only a 3-speed. There's also going to be more computer crap on the Escort than the Cav, and it's just going to be more complex in general.
Mar 13, 2003 (3:00 pm)
to be joking.98k is not a lot of miles for that engine if it was properly maintained.You need to have the vehicle checked by a competent mechanic.
IT IS NOT A MAZDA PROTEGE. IT IS A FORD. I ought to know, I owned one for 10 years.
There are some people who come to these boards and contribute. Then you have people with opinions that are based on bias. Save the import garbage for another board; that wasn't the question.
Mar 13, 2003 (8:24 pm)
U bof be straightup trippin. it aint no protege its a 323
Mar 15, 2003 (3:42 am)
The Escort and the Tracer are related. Neither is a Mazda.
Last post, what school did you go to?