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#2797 of 2800 Re: THE DOWNFALL OF RAILROADS WAS THE AUTO INDUSTRY & CONGRESS [railroadjames]
Feb 15, 2005 (1:18 pm)
"If the HOST "BOB" will allow me a little leeway, I'll just point out .....in 30 yrs on the railroad.. I collided with 5 pick-ups
1 Diesel fuel truck
1 Refrigerater (yea!)
and a partridge in a pear tree. Most of the vehicles were diesel powered...maybe thats why I'm PRO-HYBRID (ha-ha) "
Yes makes sense: gunning for a couple of hybrids to round out your portfolio!?
#2798 of 2800 Re: [robertsmx]
Feb 15, 2005 (1:36 pm)
Let's see, an Accord American, gets 32 and the VW Jetta TDI gets 49 mpg. Hmmm... I guess because it is in America it is totally not obvious which is the GASS GUZZLER?
And Civic Hybrid gets 51 mpg. Insight gets 68 mpg. Hmmm...
<Insert Oil burner here> <unquote>
Like I have said; more than once in a few posts, you have a deep affinity to turn everything adversarial!
What I did in the real world (irregardless of your attempt at causing artificial conflict and trying your darn est to be a burl in the saddle) was to get a Honda Civic GASSER at 29/38 mpg.
What is at issue here? COST!!! Specifically cost per mile driven. The HCH was 20,000, the Honda Civic was 12,000. for a difference of 8,000 dollars. You'd absolutely laugh at the BE points; if you were not so wedded to the adversarial fight and the higher cost concept of the hybrid! You may see this as the quest for the "holy grail" but...
So at 2 dollars currently a gal 8000 dollars will buy 144,000 miles of commuting fuel, 36 mpg which equates to 11 years of commuting at 50 miles per day R/T.
In response to ...
..."Not enough info. We don't know how fast you were driving over the Blue Ridge Mountains. You might drive like me (crawling along at 55), and the diesel owner might go 80."...
If you care to do the math, it is easy to find the average speed.
The point here was: I could have easily gotten 55- 60 mpg going at hybrid speeds.
I can even map quest the route. But as the host said folks are pretty dug in, so if you want me to confuse you with the facts, I can.
Feb 15, 2005 (1:47 pm)
Last spring my family of 5 took a similar trip across the Blue Ridge mountains of Tennessee... we still got 53MPG average for the trip. If your diesel only got 48, which one is the fuel guzzler...
Not enough info. We don't know how fast you were driving over the Blue Ridge Mountains. You might drive like me (crawling along at 55), and the diesel owner might go 80.
Feb 15, 2005 (1:48 pm)
OK, despite repeated attempts by the hosts to quell the personal attacks, some members are unable to steer clear of them. This forum is closed pending Sylvia's decision on the future of this topic.
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