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#3395 of 3942 Handling and Power of 2005 RX330
Apr 06, 2005 (12:18 am)
What are the general impressions of how the 2005 RX 330 drives? I have driven a 1999 RX and 2003 RX 300 by way of comparison. The 2005 RX seems a little "looser" up front; not as taut and connected as the older models.
Will an AWD give better cornering on dry pavement or will it only "shine" during inclement weather? Also, should one believe Lexus' claims of only one (1) mile per gallon difference penalty when comparing AWD fuel economy to FWD?
Do tires makes much difference in handling characteristics? My folks have Michelin Cross Terrains on their 1999 RX and they made a huge improvement over the former Goodyear Integrity rubber.
Any thoughts from current owners or recent test drivers would be appreciated.
#3396 of 3942 Better cornering...
Apr 06, 2005 (1:31 pm)
RWD, or rear torque biased AWD, will always give better, safer, cornering ability under acceleration, certainly so under heavy acceleration.
On the other hand, FWD, or front biased AWD, such as the RX, HL, Pilot, MDX, etc, can be a bit dicey when turning under acceleration, and blatantly UNSAFE under heavy acceleration.
Simultaneously applying engine drive torque and high lateral loads to just the one set of front tire contact patches can get you in BIG trouble in a BIG hurry. It's much better, for overall vehicle controlability and much more benign handling, to allocate engine drive torque to a separate set of contact patches than the ones loaded with lateral forces.
The 4runner, the BMW X3 & X5, are just a few of the rear torque biased, more safe, AWD systems currently in the market.
#3397 of 3942 Tires...
Apr 06, 2005 (1:35 pm)
Personally I perfer to run quieter and more comfortable summer tires on all my vehicles and then use snowchains anytime the need for more traction arises.
#3398 of 3942 AWD or FWD: That is the Question. I Need Your Input ASAP
Apr 08, 2005 (4:55 pm)
I have decided to buy the 2005 RX330, but have not yet decided whether to go AWD or FWD.
While at present I live in Southern California, where FWD is fine, I may be transfered to a different climate; which one I am not sure, but it might possibly have snow or more rain than we have here in the land of sunshine.
When I talk to service managers at various dealerships I get very different input. Some say FWD is fine for most anything, and the limited slip differential and the weight of the engine over the front wheels is more than enough for daily driving, even in a climate like Chicago. I drove a front wheel drive Legend there for a few years and with winter tires never had a problem.
Others tell me that the AWD is of course sure footed in rain, and better in snow, but that there are other tangible differences. More torque from a dead stop, better cornering when driving on curves or curvy hilled roads -- which we have a lot of here in Southern California.
I am also told that the gas mileage penalty is 1 to 1 1/2 mpg more for the AWD.
Any timely input or suggestions would be appreciated.
#3399 of 3942 Re: AWD or FWD: That is the Question. I Need Your Input ASAP [legendman]
Apr 08, 2005 (7:30 pm)
Legendman: I bot new '05 RX330, FWD, 18" wheels in Oct '04 from Mission Viejo Lexus. 5K miles on odo now. Since I don't plan on off-road, didn't consider AWD. As configured, imho, FWD is more than adequate. I really like 18" wheels...regular, not lo-pro. Drove to Seattle R/T: lots of rain in N.Cal, Ore., and Washington and never felt safety was a problem. Haven't yet driven in snow or on ice. Inherently, my RX has higher center of gravity than my Toyota Avalon sedan...merely a matter of physics based upon each vehicle's profile. Front wheel drive also makes RX handle slightly different than Avalon, e.g., slight understeer in RX. Not enough to really comment about.
If you believe you might move RX to snow/ice climate, or you plan to off-road, perhaps AWD is best option for you?
#3401 of 3942 Isn't....
Apr 09, 2005 (9:42 am)
the avalon also FWD?
Personally I would always op for the AWD version of the RX. But before you actually purchase I would do some serious research into the engine hesitation issue.
#3402 of 3942 New Lexus Purchase
Apr 09, 2005 (1:57 pm)
Wow there is a lot of knowlege here. I have already bought one lexus RX330 back in February of "04. I love it and now my wife wants one. I paid 42,200+ tax etc. 5%apr for it. It is AWD and has the navagation package. I'm about to buy another one for my wife.
I called my salesman and asked him about FWD and he said they don't even sell the FWD because of the area we live in (Maryland) so I'm being forced to get a AWD. MSRP on it is $45,083.00. He said he could sell it to me for $41,500 4.25%. Is this a good price? What are others paying right now out there? Does anyone know invoice on this vehicle? How much over invoice should I pay? I understand its different everywhere you go but I'm just trying to get an average.
Also should I force the issue with the FWD? I really just don't see the point of the AWD especially since I will be moving to an area that doesnt have snow/bad weather (Dallas)
#3404 of 3942 Fly SOUTH....
Apr 09, 2005 (9:12 pm)
Airline tickets are cheaper than paying the premium for AWD that you don't need.
But tell the local dealer what you plan to do first....