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You are in the Lexus RX 300/330/350
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Lexus RX 330, SUV
#1206 of 3942 0-60 in 7.8 seconds? Yeah downhill with the wind....
Aug 06, 2003 (11:19 pm)
I really like the RX 330 and may buy one this week. But the RX is not going to do 0-60 in 7.8 seconds unless I can get my hands on one of those units they give to the automotive press.
My 2001 Acura MDX advertised 0-60 in 8.5 seconds. I could do it in 8.6.
My 2003 Acura MDX advertises 0-60 in 8.0 seconds. I can do it in 8.2.
The 2004 Lexus RX 330 AWD advertises 0-60 in 7.8 seconds. I can't do any better than 8.8.
bmwbob27 is right on the mark when he describes the RX 330 as stepping on a sponge. The handling is fine for a vehicle in this class (BMW X5, Infiniti FX, Porsche Cayenne handle better at the expense of ride. Driving position is a little disappointing - even with the telescoping wheel it's not as good as the MDX. Braking is excellent. Very good choice. As usual, Lexus errors conservatively on the side of comfort over performance. But come on. 7.8 seconds!?! Let's be real. Any car magazine that gets under 8 seconds is just lying.
Aug 06, 2003 (11:22 pm)
Pros and Cons:
What are the pros and cons of FWD versus AWD on the RX 330. I don't need AWD, as I live in sunny California and our other vehicle AWD anyway. So I plan to go with FWD unless someone can convince me otherwise. Lexus say you lose 0.1 seconds (0-60) and 2 MPG with AWD. (How can believe their numbers anyway - see #1206 above). Is handling, noise or anything else affected?
#1208 of 3942 Speed Demon?
Aug 07, 2003 (5:11 am)
You're quibbling over a few tenths of a second or at most a second on 0-60 times?
Still seems pretty speedy for an SUV.
Doesn't sunny California have a lot of traffic? Where do you need to or have the chance to acclerate from 0-60 like on a road test?
BTW, I live in northern CA where 0-40 or 0-50 is more likely. And even then, no real need to floor it from a stop light.
Aug 07, 2003 (6:23 am)
I checked the configurations for the Plano area and it still shows the performance package available for both FWD and AWD. You can get the nav package with the premimum plus (PT) package for FWD. It looks like the AWD packages bundle the NAV with the Mark Levinson. I guess it is possible the website may not have been updated yet to reflect new allocations.
I do find it interesting that they would say that package wasn't available anymore. That package has most of the new features that are touted in the brochure and advertising.
#1210 of 3942 0-60 in 7.8 seconds?
Aug 07, 2003 (6:37 am)
I kind of wonder about that myself. We test drove the RX330 and the MDX and the MDX "seemed" quicker. Part of this could be due to a more "aggressive" throttle on the MDX. But your measurements would seem to verify our impressions. I'm waiting for a comparo test from one of the magazines to see what they measure.
#1211 of 3942 damormino - you crack me up :)
Aug 07, 2003 (6:38 am)
You quote the manufacturer published 0-60 times then tell us what you are capable of doing..... what are you a race car driver?
Seriously, are you timing yourself while you put these cars through their paces? Or do you have a few friends with stop watches and radar guns? Since in the RX the passenger really can not see the guages in the instrument cluster, I don't guess there is someone sitting there with a Timex.
Since you don't own a RX yet, is someone really letting you rag thiers out?
I am not sure about the poor seating position - I'm 6'2" 185# and have no trouble. In fact I think it is quite comfortable. Why would you consider getting an RX after citing the poor performance, conservative "errors", and the poor seating position? You might prefer the MDX with the all familiar Honda components and faux wood trim everywhere.
#1212 of 3942 RX 330 Still out of Commission
Aug 07, 2003 (6:44 am)
Since my accident of 7/23, the body shop has informed me that some parts are on "national" back-order. I guess that's the downside to driving a new model. If only I hadn't been watching a DVD.....those darn BMW films!!
#1213 of 3942 0 - 60 times
Aug 07, 2003 (9:42 am)
Actually what I find interesting is that the Sienna and RX both have been tested by car mags at 7.8 seconds. The Sienna is bigger, heavier and less aerodynamic. Maybe the transmissions have different ratios? I figured they must have tested a ringer Sienna since it even out-accelerates the lighter and more powerful Odyssey.
Aug 07, 2003 (9:49 am)
I am sorry if I offended some by pointing out some shortcomings of the RX 330. My intent was to provide objective information and solicit clarification on a few issues.
The RX 330 is a great vehicle - possible the best we've seen in this class. Just because there is room for improvement, doesn't mean we should pretend that it is perfect.
Getting back the the point in question....the acceleration seems to be overstated - more so than some of the competition. Times from 0-60 are always a source of argument because nobody in just about any car is able to get the times the car magazines, let alone the manufacturers, supposedly achieve. The times are, however, often used to compare vehicles - even by those who refute the numbers. In this case, a comparison of the RX with the MDX would lead one to believe that the RX does 0-60 faster when, in fact, it is actually noticeable slower.
I am not a race car driver. If I were, then maybe I could get the RX to go from 0-60 in 7.6 seconds like some magazines. My time (8.8) is over a full second slower. I don't think that is splitting hairs or talking about tenths of seconds. With the MDX I am closer, but still over what the car magazines get.
The RX has the best fit and finish in the class and it handles well to - better than the MDX. I already own a 2003 MDX (for my wife) and am looking for a vehicle for me. It would be nice to have two vehicles that we both really like. However, for those who believe pointing out shortcomings of the RX means I think the vehicle is inferior over all: The RX will make a good second car.
#1215 of 3942 Re: RX shortcomings by damormino
Aug 07, 2003 (10:26 am)
Off course no car is perfect. IMO, LEXUS knows extremely well about the US market. Remember, Luxury is the only way to drive on US freeways. We still have speed limits.
If you want fast, you'd buy FX35.