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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 15, 2007 5:27 pm) IIRC, dhanley has an honest to God, 5-Speed, three pedals under the dash, stir-it-yourself manual. When was the last time you heard of a BMW 5-Speed manual failing in a 4-5 year old car? In fact, chiming in here in support of D&B (i.e. dhanley and roadburner), excepting for those early E46 323is (plural not "is") unfortunately equipped with an automatic transmission, I cannot think of any non-M BMW with an I6 engine built in the last fifteen years or so that would cost more than $100 per month on average to maintain. And if you are a DIYer, I suspect that the number is closer to $50-75 per month. Best Regards, Shipo |
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Replying to: shipo (Aug 15, 2007 6:29 pm)  I guess my point is that after 80K, any machine is totally unpredictable. You keep saying this and that never fails but you KNOW they do...they have to...it just doesn't happen to you or me. And DIY doesn't count for the average consumer, that just skews the data immensely. I'd venture that if you had a shop do all your work, and you spent only $50 a month on your used Bimmer, it wouldn't be in very good shape. What do you think? I'm thinkin' $150--$275 is where the bell curve starts and ends for 90% of out of warranty BMW owners....just my guess from experience. Just a WAG. VEERING BACK ON TOPIC---the point is----get the extended warranty if you aren't a DIYer. Fair enough statement?
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 15, 2007 7:27 pm) Me? I don't think I've ever suggested that they don't have the occasional failure, they do. More often than other cars? I kind of doubt it. More expensive than other cars. Probably. "VEERING BACK ON TOPIC---the point is----get the extended warranty if you aren't a DIYer. Fair enough statement?" Personally I am not a fan of extended warranties. Period, full stop, the end. I was dumb enough to buy an extended warranty for a car I purchased back in 1988, and after I got rid of that car I figured that the warranty cost me about $1,600 more than the covered repairs for the car. I haven't bought one since even though every new and used car I've had has had the option of buying such a warranty. Granted I'm a DIYer and so my costs aren't as expensive as the next individual, however, the $15,000 in extended warranties that I haven't bought can be accounted against some $4,500 in repairs (which included one automatic transmission that I paid my dealership to replace). While self insuring may not pay off on any given car, over time I believe that it pays off. Why? Well if it didn't, then the companies that sell such extended warranties wouldn't stay in business very long now would they. Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 15, 2007 7:27 pm)  I maintain that $275/mo would be a very(atypically) expensive 3-er to maintain. Sure, it's posible if an auto tranny fails, and the engine grenades someday, but i don't think such catastrophic failure only applies to BMW's--i know people with economy cars who have been socked with buge bills for failures such as this. |
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I'll pay for the insurance if I buy a BMW. Take a look. http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/1999-to-2005-bmw-3-series-2.htm Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Aug 16, 2007 7:33 am) Can you guess how much the cats are on this thing? Granted, it is covered by Federal Emissions warranty up to 80,000, but both cats failed on mine before 50,000 and they are $2,800 each. For some, it certainly makes sense to buy the extended warranty, or buy CPO. If I had still owned my 02 530, I would not have bothered. The guy who bought it from me hasn't spent a dime on repairs other than tires/brakes/oil. It was and is certainly more reliable than our 04 Sienna or 95 Integra at the same mileage and time. |
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Replying to: shipo (Aug 15, 2007 8:57 pm) A BMW extended warranty is like a generous slot machine. Sure, more people lose than win, but it's pretty close IMO. After all, just skimming a 10% profit isn't bad. Older BMW 3-Series definitely have some weak spots...exploding radiators come to mind...and could they make it any easier for someone to steal your front directional signal lenses? Water pumps aren't the greatest, nor their fuel pumps. Manual trans is pretty sturdy...never saw one fail, but I have seen a few clutch disks disintegrate. (could have been driver abuse I dunno). And of course the usual German electrical demons here and there. But all in all, the least risky of the BMW line, the 3 series. Great cars.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 16, 2007 9:59 am) Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: shipo (Aug 16, 2007 10:16 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 16, 2007 10:24 am) If I had actually done the set-aside model starting with the 1993 that I bought to replace the 1989 (the one that I purchased extended maintenance for), I would have some $12,000 in that account by now. Funny thing though, that accounting assumes that the $2,600 transmission replacement that I did last year would have been covered. Given that the extended warranty that I was offered for that car expired at the 100,000 mile mark, I would still have had to pay for the tranny as the original unit went Tango Uniform at 109,000 miles. So in essence, by self insuring I was able to cover a repair that wouldn't have been covered by the extended warranty. Best Regards, Shipo
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