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Replying to: roadburner (Aug 15, 2007 11:40 am) But my friends with used BMWs out of warranty spend way, way, WAY more than that, because they don't do any of the work and they are too busy to economize all that much. I'm usually the one they call for advice so I hear all the stories. They aren't as conscientious as you obviously. |
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Replying to: carnaught (Jul 17, 2007 9:21 am) Oh...and the best part...600 miles on one tank of premium fuel on a recent long road trip...which averages out to just over 36 mpg. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 15, 2007 9:49 am) Ah, well, i know a few people with older beemers too, and the cars that might typically average $275/mo for running costs aren't the same ones that have $389 lease deals. In other words, i think an older 328i costing 275/mo is an extreme statistical outlier. I mean, that's $3300/yr. I've never even been in that ballpark, much less averaged that. I haven't tallied my records, but i think that since my warranty expired i've put about $100/mo into mine, and it was lower until some recent major maintenance items (ball joints, clutch, etc). One of the big v12's? An m5? Oh, yeah, maybe even a low estimate, but a lease deal on one of those is likely to be a grand a month.
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Replying to: dhanley (Aug 15, 2007 3:51 pm) now being the good maintainer you are, this may never happen to you, but transmission failures on 4-5 year old BMWs is certainly not unheard of. Yes of course 7 Series or M series is gonna cost you beaucoup bucks after warranty. Perhaps $275 a month is the outer limits here for all but that 10% or so of 3 series owners that might suffer the catastrophic failure after warranty. .
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 15, 2007 4:27 pm) Timing belt! We don' need no stinking timing belts, my E39 has a timing chain. BMWs,before the recent infatuation with electronic gadgetry were built for the long haul. There are lots of old ones around. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 15, 2007 4:27 pm) BMW NA hasn't offered a car with a timing belt since 1992. Even so, it's not like it's an unpredictable occurence- just change it at the interval specified in the manual. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 15, 2007 4:27 pm) IIRC, dhanley has an honest to God, 5-Speed, three pedals under the dash, stir-it-yourself manual. When was the last time you heard of a BMW 5-Speed manual failing in a 4-5 year old car? In fact, chiming in here in support of D&B (i.e. dhanley and roadburner), excepting for those early E46 323is (plural not "is") unfortunately equipped with an automatic transmission, I cannot think of any non-M BMW with an I6 engine built in the last fifteen years or so that would cost more than $100 per month on average to maintain. And if you are a DIYer, I suspect that the number is closer to $50-75 per month. Best Regards, Shipo |
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Replying to: shipo (Aug 15, 2007 5:29 pm)  I guess my point is that after 80K, any machine is totally unpredictable. You keep saying this and that never fails but you KNOW they do...they have to...it just doesn't happen to you or me. And DIY doesn't count for the average consumer, that just skews the data immensely. I'd venture that if you had a shop do all your work, and you spent only $50 a month on your used Bimmer, it wouldn't be in very good shape. What do you think? I'm thinkin' $150--$275 is where the bell curve starts and ends for 90% of out of warranty BMW owners....just my guess from experience. Just a WAG. VEERING BACK ON TOPIC---the point is----get the extended warranty if you aren't a DIYer. Fair enough statement?
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 15, 2007 6:27 pm) Me? I don't think I've ever suggested that they don't have the occasional failure, they do. More often than other cars? I kind of doubt it. More expensive than other cars. Probably. "VEERING BACK ON TOPIC---the point is----get the extended warranty if you aren't a DIYer. Fair enough statement?" Personally I am not a fan of extended warranties. Period, full stop, the end. I was dumb enough to buy an extended warranty for a car I purchased back in 1988, and after I got rid of that car I figured that the warranty cost me about $1,600 more than the covered repairs for the car. I haven't bought one since even though every new and used car I've had has had the option of buying such a warranty. Granted I'm a DIYer and so my costs aren't as expensive as the next individual, however, the $15,000 in extended warranties that I haven't bought can be accounted against some $4,500 in repairs (which included one automatic transmission that I paid my dealership to replace). While self insuring may not pay off on any given car, over time I believe that it pays off. Why? Well if it didn't, then the companies that sell such extended warranties wouldn't stay in business very long now would they. Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 15, 2007 6:27 pm)  I maintain that $275/mo would be a very(atypically) expensive 3-er to maintain. Sure, it's posible if an auto tranny fails, and the engine grenades someday, but i don't think such catastrophic failure only applies to BMW's--i know people with economy cars who have been socked with buge bills for failures such as this. |
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