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BMW 3 Series, Sedan
#5453 of 7013 Re: PermaPlate...Worth it? [bmq]
Jan 05, 2006 (4:12 pm)
It's a rip-off. The trade calls these types of packages "Mop and Glow". The only thing PermaPlate will enhance and protect is your dealer's profit margin. The black leather in the 1997 E39 daily driver I sold last November was stain and crack free- and I never treated it with anything other than a damp cloth. I never waxed the sled either, but the paint still had an excellent shine. FWIW, the buyer paid $4500 more than CarMax offered.
In your case I'd recommend waxing it with BMW's proprietary wax once or twice per year. I'd use BMW's leather treatment on the seats at the same time. If you still want to throw $500 out the window, please mail it to me instead...
#5454 of 7013 Re: PermaPlate...Worth it? [bmq]
Jan 05, 2006 (6:20 pm)
If you don't want to spend a lot of time on it, have it professionally detailed (including wax) a couple of times per year, and be sure to remove bird droppings, sap, and tar quickly.
#5455 of 7013 Re: E815/Bluetooth [snsn]
Jan 05, 2006 (7:39 pm)
Were you able to get the programming updates (CIP 20, I assume) applied to the car? If yes, did it fix the bluetooth problem of the phone not connecting with the car intermittently?
Anyone else recently have the updates applied to their cars? Can you please share your experiences?
#5456 of 7013 Re: E815/Bluetooth [dhanno]
Jan 05, 2006 (8:48 pm)
I picked my 2006 325i up last Friday and bringing it in tomorrow. The BMW Service Center has no knowledge of the CIP 20. It has been a very frustrating experience trying to get it to work. I did alot of research prior to buying the car and was "assured" it would work. Well, the bottom line is that it works when it wants. 35% of the time. I now just leave my car running. The T-Mobile reps have been great. I leave my car running so that I don't unpair, and went to get the guys Gift Cards because of all the help they have done. I almost hope, and joked with them, that a thief takes my car. Cause then, I'm done with Bluetooth and BMW. I thought of writing the agreement "I walk out and it works", well, it should have been works 99% of the time.
#5459 of 7013 Re: E815/Bluetooth [screwbluetooth]
Jan 06, 2006 (9:06 am)
You seem to have a lot of hostility toward BMW over this issue.... Have you tried doing the same type of things with any other car with Bluetooth? (Acura?)
#5460 of 7013 Re: E815/Bluetooth [screwbluetooth]
Jan 06, 2006 (10:26 am)
Let us not lose sight of the fact that the new 3 is a car and not a telephone booth on wheels.
That said, it is reasonable for buyers to expect that ALL of its standard and optional features will work well.
Apparently Bluetooth is very important to you and I can understand your frustration.
May we understand that your bluetooth phone is on BMW's approved list of bluetooth phones offered by your cell service provider? When I looked into this over the summer there was only 1 Verizon bluetooth phone on BMW's approved list, although Verizon offered several bluetooth phones at the time. I understood at the time that the approved phone was tested by BMW and found to pair up well, while the other phones may or may not pair up well. I am still procrastinating.
#5461 of 7013 Re: E815/Bluetooth [davidd3]
Jan 06, 2006 (1:43 pm)
I empathize with screwbluetooth and have the same frustrations with bluetooth in the car as well as BMW service levels.
Several other car companies (including Acura) provide bluetooth feature in their cars that work flawlessly. In spite of BMW's stringent Quality Control levels and "precise German Engineering", there has been an inconsistency in providing the bluetooth functionality in the 2006 model 3-series cars. This problem seems to occur in cars manufactured during certain months (September is particularly bad), and not others.
The service provided by BMW and Service Centers to fix this problem is less than satisfactory. In spite of a lot of people reporting these issues, BMW has been really slow in coming up with a fix to the problem and even slower in communicating it to the BMW service centers.
Agreed it's a car and not a telephone booth on wheels, but having handsfree phone capabilities in the car is a very important feature to me and a lot of other people. It has been a consideration in the buying process as well as retaining/switching cell phone carriers. Besides, if a feature in the car doesn't work, I consider it to be false advertising.
Before shooting the messenger, ask yourself is it unreasonable to expect a timely fix to this problem from what's considered one of the best car companies in the world?
#5462 of 7013 Bluetooth come with Nav system?
Jan 06, 2006 (2:40 pm)
I ask the question because the BMW dealer says no, but the BMW hotline says yes. Hotline also says BMW Assist comes standard on all 3-series, but the order guide calls it out as a $750 option. I don't want BMW Assist but do want Nav and Bluetooth. Does anyone know the true answer??