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#1880 of 7013 Re: Invoice vs. MSRP Scenario!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [tex62]
by shipo
Apr 09, 2005 (10:41 pm)
I've been active in this discussion on and off since 1998, and in that entire time I've heard nothing but non-complimentary things about the sales attitude of the Dallas area BMW dealers. Collusion I believe is the formal term for what they are doing. Fortunately for them other dealers (as in dealers not in the Dallas area) are not in on the same secret deal and as such the Dallas dealers cannot be formally charged by the governmental powers that be for price fixing. If you live in the Dallas area and you are willing to pay full price, then you're good to go. If you're not willing, then I've heard that down toward Austin or over toward Shreveport are the directions one can travel to get a much better deal.
Keep in mind, I live in the frozen north (the last of our snow just finished melting today) and have never actually dealt with a Dallas area dealer, I'm just posting what I believe I've heard.
Best Regards,
Shipo
#1881 of 7013 Re: Invoice vs. MSRP Scenario!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [tex62]
by gogglespiasano
Apr 10, 2005 (12:04 am)
tex62 and others,
I was actually quite surprised at the discounts available on the new 2006 3 series. I don't think dealers will be giving much in the way of discounts but I have had several dealers mention that they would knock $1000 off MSRP. I attrribute this to the fact that they have sold so many 2005 3 series with the incentives that they are worried that may have absorbed alot of the demand. Also, they are getting lots of 3 series in May, June and other competitive cars such as Acura TL and RL, Lexus and Audi are being discounted.
#1882 of 7013 Re: Invoice vs. MSRP Scenario!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [gogglespiasano]
by 307web
Apr 10, 2005 (12:11 am)
They can easily "say" they will cut $1000 off MSRP if they feel like it, then make up the money elsewhere in so many other parts of the transaction or just plain not do it when the time comes.
#1883 of 7013 Re: Invoice vs. MSRP Scenario!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [shipo]
by dl7265
Apr 10, 2005 (12:15 am)
Nail on the head my friend. Whats absurd is that one can deal in NY/NJ and not TX. My example:
I briefly looked a month ago at a rare bird 2005 with CWP. As you can imagine not many to be found here in the South. After not such a great offer (with incentives)I made a very fair (and probably too high) offer. The response was "we offer good pricing up front to avoid the back and forth" your getting a great car,at a good price" "we stand by our offer" . dont let the door hit you..... ect ect
Guess what ? said vehicle is still there, with 2006's at the port. Come July in TX will they move it with heated seats ? BTW another poster from NY bought exact equipped car last week for $1500 less than I was offered.
Regards,
DL
#1884 of 7013 Re: Invoice vs. MSRP Scenario!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [dl7265]
by amt7565
Apr 10, 2005 (8:17 am)
I have been dealing with all the 4 dealers in the Dallas metroplex and yes it's hard to bargain with them. One dealer in particular seems like he will sell for close to what I want(about $33K for a $40K vehicle). But all this has only been done on email. I have not gone to the dealership to try to purhcase one yet.
I am waiting for the new models to come out. So, I am in no rush to buy...also the feeling of driving a paid off car is sweet for the time being! I will buy one right away, only if I got a deal that was hard to resist!
I spoke with a dealer in Temple/Bryan, and he has agreed to do ED with only a resonable profit. So, seems like I do have something lined up if I like the new models and do ED.
There is a site someone posted here for rating dealers...I think it was dealerater.com or something similar. The dealerships in Arlington and Fortworth had very excellnt ratings. The ones in Richardson and Dallas had very very poor ratings.
AMT-
Apr 10, 2005 (9:19 am)
Hi
I saw the new 2006 3 series at the new york auto show and to tell you the truth I didn't care for the new styling, looks alot better in pictures!!!!
#1886 of 7013 What about ZHP
by qtowne46
Apr 10, 2005 (3:14 pm)
Anyone here heard of if and when Bavarian is going to add the performance package to the E90? I realize the E90 will have more ponies then the E46, but a ZHP E90 would be radical.
#1887 of 7013 Re: new look [pisciotta]
by dlw314
Apr 10, 2005 (5:22 pm)
Hi
I saw the new 2006 3 series at the new york auto show and to tell you the truth I didn't care for the new styling, looks alot better in pictures!!!!
Funny, I though the exact opposite when I saw it at the NY auto show ...
I felt it looks better in person than it does in pictures, and I definitely like the new styling...
I guess it's just different strokes for different folks...
#1888 of 7013 Re: Invoice vs. MSRP Scenario!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [dl7265]
by tex62
Apr 10, 2005 (5:47 pm)
Thanks everyone for the feedback on the dealers in Dallas. Collusion in this area would not be that far fetched. I'm going to test the waters in Temple and see if these guys are hungry enough to sell me a car....
#1889 of 7013 Re: Invoice vs. MSRP Scenario!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [tex62]
by bartalk3
Apr 10, 2005 (8:28 pm)
You say someone told you that "there is a BMW purchase policy not to discount the new 3 series beyond MSRP for the next 6 months"?
Isn't this called price fixing, conspiracy, and all those other nice illegal things? Call your state attorney general.