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#1847 of 7013 Re: when will it arrive(mevande) [blueguydotcom]
by mevande
Apr 06, 2005 (11:31 pm)
Agreed re: As for the TL, it appeals to different buyers (FWD) and is not in any way faster than a 330i. "", however the RL has something called "Super Handling All-Wheel Drive™ (SH-AWD™") . I drove one and this car is fast, has lots of toys (almost too many) and get an awesome skidpad rating of .87! Dive one just for fun and you will see what I mean. Car and Driver ect, however put this in the category/company of the 5 series (not the 3). I have not made up my mind, but the RL(new for 2005) drives like it is on rails. The last decent Midsize car Acura made was the limited edition Acura GS (1995 last yr of prod). I drove what BMW had available at the time in 1994 (and price range) and it was a 525. The Acura was much faster and more fun to drive. The 525 was underpowered that year with a 184HP in-line 6. The Acura bought out the disaster RL! What a disgrace of a car. It took them 10 years to make something decent. This talk is all good. All the people here are genuine going to buy new cars and that’s great for the economy.
Mike V.
When I am wrong, I easily admit it:)
#1848 of 7013 Re: when will it arrive(mevande) [mevande]
by blueguydotcom
Apr 06, 2005 (11:46 pm)
however the RL has something called "Super Handling All-Wheel Drive™ (SH-AWD™") . I drove one and this car is fast, has lots of toys (almost too many) and get an awesome skidpad rating of .87!
i believe you that it's fun and many are hoping the AWD system will trickle down to Acura's midsize and compact sedans. The RL, unfortunately, is more of a competitor with the likes of the A6 and departed I35. It's 49.6k MSRP is far above any 3 series i'd consider. I'm aiming to pay 36k or so for a 41k msrp e90 330i (assuming I like it enough to buy one...though the mazda 6 and miata or even an sti could steal me away...too soon to tell).
Dive one just for fun and you will see what I mean. Car and Driver ect, however put this in the category/company of the 5 series (not the 3). I have not made up my mind, but the RL(new for 2005) drives like it is on rails. The last decent Midsize car Acura made was the limited edition Acura GS (1995 last yr of prod). I drove what BMW had available at the time in 1994 (and price range) and it was a 525. The Acura was much faster and more fun to drive. The 525 was underpowered that year with a 184HP in-line 6. The Acura bought out the disaster RL! What a disgrace of a car. It took them 10 years to make something decent. This talk is all good. All the people here are genuine going to buy new cars and that’s great for the economy.
I will probably get around to driving an RL but for me it's far too large of a car. I'm a fan of smaller more nimble vehicles. I sincerely hope BMW brings the 130 to the states. While I enjoy my 3, it's too large of a vehicle for me. Yeah, that sounds odd compared to the majority of americans who want large cars. In many ways I have more fun driving my tiny, light (if 2700 lbs is "light") Protege than my 330i. the 330i is exceptional for long drives and it's got decent pick up but often i feel like the handling's hindered by the car's large mass.
Enjoy your RL.
Apr 07, 2005 (3:45 am)
it was in UK, diesel isnt available in US, sadly...
#1850 of 7013 Re: Lost in Translation [ritchieg]
by planoml
Apr 07, 2005 (6:21 am)
I was just joking about the Hummer-funny that despite all the size issues, people still buy them there. What a deal on the gas! You are lucky. I'm set for May 20th.
#1852 of 7013 Re: when will it arrive(mevande) [blueguydotcom]
by dl7265
Apr 07, 2005 (9:14 am)
Thats whats great about the BMW. Even the 5 drives and feels like a small car, but is comfortable.It does not make your feel like your driving a boat, 300m, or what ever large cars are popular these days.
Just checked the weather forcast for Monday for the 3AA in Dallas.80% chance rain ....
DL
#1853 of 7013 How does the price compare?
by ritchieg
Apr 07, 2005 (10:38 am)
I ordered my E90 here in Germany with US Specs. How does the price compare to the states? I just want to see if I got ripped because you can't negotiate the price over here.
330i Base Price $32,300
A22 SG paint $ 475
ZSP Sports Package $ 1,800
Domestic Freight $ 200
Customs fee $ 65
Total $34,840
I didn't get leather because in my experience the leatherette is a little more durable.
Of course I'll still have to pay taxes when I register it back in the states.
Apr 07, 2005 (11:09 am)
The base price seems a little high for ED (but compared to US prices it's cheap) but the rest looks good. Delivery is cheap!
#1855 of 7013 Re: How does the price compare? [ritchieg]
by planoml
Apr 07, 2005 (11:32 am)
I agree with blue-the bottom line looks good. $1,000-1,500 over base invoice with everything else at retail would be about what you got.
#1856 of 7013 Re: How does the price compare? [planoml]
by shipo
Apr 07, 2005 (12:05 pm)
"I agree with blue-the bottom line looks good. $1,000-1,500 over base invoice with everything else at retail would be about what you got."
Well, almost. What I would have said (and what I think you meant) is, "I agree with blue-the bottom line looks good. $1,000-1,500 over base invoice with everything else at INVOICE would be about what you got."
Best Regards,
Shipo