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Subaru Legacy, Sedan
Sep 08, 2003 (6:34 am)
i just wanted to chime in on the seat thing. See, I DEMAND a power driver's seat. And its not because I want the power adjustment. Hell, I find that kind of annoying because it moves so damned slow and its just more crap to break. HOWEVER, it has to do with the design of these things. For some silly reason, power seats have more fore/aft travel than their manual counter parts as well as more tilt travel. So in order for me to be comfortable in a car it has to have a power seat because that is the only way it moves far enough for me to get in there and be comfortable for more than an hour at a time. So, anyway, just because someone wants a power seat doesn't mean they want it just for luxury.
Sep 08, 2003 (7:09 am)
Never thought about that, but then again I don't need the seat all the way back, usually.
Cool color, call it gunmetal.
Sep 08, 2003 (8:13 am)
The only thing I can say is that the manual seat in my '96 OBW had more aft travel (don't know about fore) than the power seat in my '03 OBW.
To be fair, the comparison is between different generations. However, IIRC, the '03 L-SE manual seat had more aft travel than the '03 OBW power seat.
Sep 08, 2003 (10:09 am)
If that's the case with the new Legacy, then great. The only manual seat I've tried that felt good and gave me the leg support I need (to avoid resting my legs against the door and center console like in our previous Forester) was the '02 WRX. That seat felt great and all that did was adjust up and down (no tilt). So if the new Legacy came with something like that, I'd be a happy camper.
Sep 09, 2003 (3:35 am)
The '04 35th Anniv. (formerly know as L-SE) now has a power seat.
The L & L-SE manual seat has only fore/aft and backrest recliner adjustments. There are no lumbar or seat cushion adjustments.
#65 of 98 Rumour has it Legacy bests Audi RS6 on short course
Sep 09, 2003 (8:12 am)
Registered: Aug 2003
Location: south of the border
Posts: 25 Since I got the post reply e-mail, thought I'd mention more about that race now that I've heard more. Keep in mind that the JDM has 30 extra ponies, but we don't know how the torque curves will compare. This is from the latest Best Motoring series in a wagon showdown. The race was 3 laps at Tsukuba circuit in Japan which is a fairly tight course, so it is going to favor balance and handling more than brute acceleration. They raced the Spec B manual and automatic against the Toyota Caldina and the RS6 Avant. After 3 laps, the order was
The Legacy won all three laps. It seems that the problems for the RS6 was the extreme extra weight it is carrying which led to brake fade and higher tire wear. I still have a hard time believing that the Legacy was able to not get passed in any straights, so they must be pretty short. The tests saying 5.7 second 0-60 on the Legacy I think are quite gentle runs. Kill the clutch runs to get top runs have been good for 5.2-3 seconds. With Spec B gearing, the Legacy should be only a tad slower than the STi Impreza due to the conservative output number on the STi. I'm sure the video will be on Kazaa soon or in stores to buy. Should be interesting to check out.
STi ECU tuning update (basically the same engine) - Vishnu Tuning has now tested the car with 96-97 race gas mixure and is close to 400hp and 30 ft-lbs. more than a 993 Turbo! It lights up all 4 tires just rolling on the gas, and this is just with turbo back exhaust and ECU tuning.
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Sep 09, 2003 (8:23 am)
RS5 is heavy, plus automatic only. Still, it's more of a Q-ship than a super-sedan.
#67 of 98 I'm with Imprezton!
Sep 09, 2003 (8:27 am)
I LOVE alcantara - have seen it used in UK-spec Forester S turbos as well as those Audis and the WRX STi. I hate to say it but I could even see myself buying a non-premium Forester XT and going for aftermarket alcantara upholstery.
I also like a dark gunmetal gray metallic, maybe with a touch of blue.
Sep 14, 2003 (10:31 am)
Everyone check out the spy shots!
A few things I like/don't like.
It appears we get the EDM bumper and not JDM bumper. I like the JDM bumper more.
The OB gets the good JDM turn signals wheras the Legacy's get the flashy orange turn signals.
The fog lamp housings aren't color matched like I'd rather have. That's open for debate if it's tape or not so far.
We're at least starting to get a glimpse.