Last post on Mar 28, 2010 at 6:28 PM
You are in the Honda Odyssey
What is this discussion about?
Honda Odyssey, Van
#3108 of 3608 Re: demographics [heywood1]
Sep 01, 2004 (8:31 am)
Or, it could be about bringing out the facts. Whatever works, right? Honda has been worried with average age of its typical buyer at 44 years (Acura is at 43) as of 2003. Surprisingly, it is below the industry average so these studies are part of marketing strategy, not only for bragging rights, but also to define the future.
Toyota has been worried about it too. Average age of Toyota buyer was 47 (Lexus is at 53), which is apparently of concern. Buick leads all at 62, BTW.
Speaking of pricing…
Sienna XLE MSRP is $29,055. To this, add XLE Package #5 ($2,575) and XLE Leather Interior Upgrade ($1,995) to have…
Leather interior (Standard in Odyssey “Touring”)
Stability Control (Standard in all trims of Odyssey)
Front Seat Side Air Bags (Standard in all trims of Odyssey)
Rear Disc Brakes
Curtain Airbags for all three rows (Standard in all trims of Odyssey)
There we go, MSRP + Destination price of over $34K.
Apparently, most buyers will stop at EX-L in Odyssey that has virtually everything. Touring adds a stiffer suspension, 18-inch wheels and a few more gadgetry for those who want more flavor.
I will take darker shade of steering wheel. My 1998 Accord has two tone interior, the top of the dash is darker shade which is what the steering wheel matches to. And that is how the new Odyssey seems to be done as well.
Darker shade is less prone to getting dirty/show wear. Even with the dark shade in my Accord, I can see some upon close inspection. It would be worse if the steering wheel were wrapped with lighter shade of leather (to match the seats/lower dash).
#3109 of 3608 Fun with Demographics
Sep 01, 2004 (8:45 am)
Demographics can be skewed to mean whatever you want them to, just like any statistic.
You might say Ody owners are the smartest, youngest, and most successful.
An opponent might say they're immature snobs.
Income level is often higher for vehicles that carry a relatively higher price in the class they compete in. In other words, rich people buy expensive cars.
The age thing is interesting because the automaker with the youngest demographics, to be envied by all other manufacturers, is...drum roll please.
Sep 01, 2004 (8:51 am)
I like the general look, not a very radical changed from the old.
The shifting gear is nice (some may not like it though)
I hope this will not turn into a thread of Sienna vs Odyssey owners
Each and every one of us will have different choices. It does not make one or the other less intelligent
Competition to me is good for us the consumers. Let Honda and Toyota keep out-improving each other every year - we will have the best choices
#3111 of 3608 RE: Demographics, steering wheel [robertsmx]
Sep 01, 2004 (9:01 am)
Still, I'd be interested to know to what the superlatives are compared, just Sienna, minivans, or all car sales. It shouldn't be a surprise that as the average age of the population increases, so does the average age of a car buyer.
It's just my opinion about the black dash top and steering wheel. I think color-matched (like a Lexus) is more luxurious looking. Black makes the Odyssey's dash & wheel look not much different from a Civic's. Black is no less prone to getting dirty. If an owner is the type that rarely/never cleans, the dirt is certainly less noticeable.
#3112 of 3608 robertsmx
Sep 01, 2004 (9:07 am)
I don't want to put words in heywood1's mouth so I'll tell you what I object too in your quote regarding the demographics of typical Ody buyers:
We should be in here discussing the pros and cons of the new Ody. Period. When you begin to bring in stereotypes regarding the typical Ody (or non-Ody) buyer, you introduce a personal aspect to the discussion. Do we really need that in here? Isn't it possible to just discuss the VEHICLE, rather than the OWNERS?
#3113 of 3608 Major Design Flaw
Sep 01, 2004 (9:12 am)
The 8 passenger configuration has only 15 cupholders. So if each passenger has two drinks, someone has to hold one in his hand. I wonder if you can stick one of the drinks in the lazy susan?
Sep 01, 2004 (9:24 am)
Its not even my quote! My mistake though, I shouldn't have posted excerpts from first driving impression. Seems to hurt more than it does good! Oh well, I put an end to it here.
Not every vehicle has to feel like a Lexus. A darker shade, as long as it matches some interior color works better for me than a lighter shade that matches something else. But then, function takes precedence over form for me.
Sep 01, 2004 (9:28 am)
I agree - let us just discuss the new ODY (what you like or don't)
The front looks like the civic - I like it though, the rear I liked it better than the old
Engine is great! Honda is always ahead of Toyota though in HP, but does not always translate in sales (Camry outsells the Accord and accord has more HP)
I love the torque of the engine!
Sep 01, 2004 (9:50 am)
In the battle for top-selling mid-size sedan--Toyota includes all their fleet cars with their retail numbers to come up with the total sales.
Honda doesn't have fleet cars; therefore, subtract the Camry fleet sales and Accord beats Camry.
#3117 of 3608 Re: steering wheel [robertsmx]
Sep 01, 2004 (9:53 am)
yes those buttons have to do with the MID. It allows driver 1 and driver 2 to input their preferences for several different items; i.e. windows, lights, locks(yes, you can now program it to lock the doors after you shift from park or set the locks to lock after the vehicle begins moving.