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You are in the Pontiac GTO
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Pontiac GTO, Coupe
#3722 of 4353 Re: Burning Oil [tmlynn0654]
Dec 26, 2005 (4:02 pm)
Yes, this problem has happened to a very small number '05's that I've read about (Google for "LS2 Oil Consumption". Have the dealership perform an oil consumption test on your car, and check the oil frequently/keep great documentation on changes, mileage, and oil levels.
Here's a GM document on this issue:
"Document ID#1409149 - 2005 Pontiac GTO
"Excessive oil consumption, not due to leaks, is the use of 1 L (1qt) or more of engine oil within 3200 kilometers (2000 miles)"
Hope this helps,
#3723 of 4353 Re: Burning Oil [hammen2]
Dec 26, 2005 (11:40 pm)
Thanks Robert for the information. I googled but haven't been able to find any related information yet. Do you know how I can look at Document ID 1409149? Also, do you know what might be the cause of this problem and if it can be resolved? The dealership did mention performing the oil consumption test. They said Pontiac requires that it be done to show there is a problem before they will do anything to try to correct the problem.
#3724 of 4353 Re: Burning Oil [tmlynn0654]
Dec 27, 2005 (8:59 am)
If you go to Google and search for, in quotes, "LS2 oil consumption", I guarantee that you will find a discussion about this (on a non-Edmunds site that I can't provide a direct link to, sorry).
Re: looking at that document ID, need to find a GM dealer to display that.
Yes, you pretty much need to have the dealership perform the oil consumption test before GM will do anything. I know in a couple of cases they've replaced motors. I have not read about this happening on a lot of cars, just a handful - so don't anyone think this is a chronic LS2 issue...
#3725 of 4353 Gauge Colors
Jan 01, 2006 (7:41 pm)
Probably a dumb question here; but is there any way to change the color of the gagues?
Really not a big fan of the color red - more partial to black and white. Any way to change the colors or order any optional colors?
Any and all help is appreciated!
#3726 of 4353 Re: Gauge Colors [spdwy33]
Jan 02, 2006 (7:56 am)
Not any easy way. Best option is to buy a Midnight Blue Metallic car, since they come with silver-gray gauges. I purchased a silver-gray cluster off e-bay (these came in the pulse red 2004 "40th Anniversary" GTOs) and traded out that for the red cluster in my Phantom Black GTO. Looks SOOOOO much better, in my opintion. The silver gray gauges complement the silver trim nicely. However, that wasn't enough for me; I pulled out the red overlay, scanned it into my computer, cleaned it up and changed the typeface. Then had it output to a film positive (I'm in the graphics field); trimmed it out and backed it up with several layers of white frosted vinyl and installed. I'm pretty happy with it; my 46-year-old eyes can read the white-on-black, non-condensed font gauges much better.
I'll try to post a picture...
#3727 of 4353 Nice Job white6!!
Jan 02, 2006 (1:30 pm)
Just what we want - but how would a 'poor dumb beancounter' get something that good!
Jan 03, 2006 (8:27 am)
I wouldn't feel confident hacking up someone elses cluster. I've actually done a lot of stuff to my car (replacement trunk lid without spoiler, BMW wheels with custom-fit Pontiac centercaps, left foot dead pedal, 05 brake upgrade). When I don't like something, it just eats away at me until I do something about it.
#3729 of 4353 Re: Thanks. [white6]
Jan 03, 2006 (7:05 pm)
Nice Ride white6!
Do tell what kind of rims?
Trunk looks smooth as glass - how did you handle the removal and filling? New trunk lid, is that right?
Why did you remove the badges?
Any more pics?
#3730 of 4353 Re: Thanks. [white6]
Jan 03, 2006 (11:11 pm)
Can you explain how you installed a deal pedal on your '04??
#3731 of 4353 Little misleading...
Jan 04, 2006 (7:17 am)
Badges are Photoshopped out... just to see. I decided not to remove them. The wheels are OEM BMW style 119 (standard wheel on 2004-2005 Sport Package 325i). They are 17x8 with a 45mm offset; almost exactly like factory GTO wheels. I purchased a set of center adapter rings made by a guy over on "another" forum. The wheels on GTO's are "hubcentric," which means they are supported by the center hub and should fit snug. GTO wheels/hubs are a bit smaller than the BMW wheels/hubs, so this fellow had adapter rings machined out of aircraft quality aluminum... a little anti-seize and they fit like a custom-made glove. This is an important step in fitting non-oem wheels to GTO's... to make sure that the wheels are perfectly centered on the hub so they run smooth and true. I purchased a trunk lid from a salvage yard and paid a professional to weld the holes and paint. $250 for trunk lid, plus a little over $400 for filling/painting. The dead pedal was kind of strange. I did something a week after I bought to car to just "get me by for now," but it works fine so I just left it. After walking around an Ace Hardware store, I found a black plastic mailbox mount that looked like it would work. I was able to trim it up and glued the sole of a used sandal (yes, the kind you put on your feet!) to it and screwed it to the kick panel. Also mounted a back support that rests on the floor behind to provide extra strength. I know it sounds like a major kluge, but it works fine and is pretty unabtrusive. Its all black, so it kind of blends in...