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Pontiac GTO, Coupe
#2876 of 4353 GTO problems
May 31, 2005 (10:27 am)
Well, I may not be the guy to ask since my first GTO was "exchanged" by GM due to problems. Frankly, most of them were caused by a problematic dealer service department. Replacement car has been solid.
The engine in the 2004 is the tried-and-true LS1 which has been in use since 1997/1998 in the Corvette and F-body. The 2005 has the new LS2, which is significantly changed, and probably too early to pass judgement on as far as reliability. There was an issue with coolant leak from freeze plugs on the LS1. On the LS2, the GTO uses drive-by-wire (i.e. no throttle cable), and there's a problem with this system - only a handful of '05 owners posted about it on another forum - new part is in development/should be available by mid-June (car goes into reduced power mode when this happens).
There were a number of teething issues (thunk in the trunk, rear axle bolts, door lock assembly) which were problematic on '04's. There are a number of Technical Service Bulletins out for the car. Later built cars (my first one was 281xxx, replacment 301xxx) have these fixes and seem to be a bit more solid. '05's are very solid, with the only questions being the drivetrain (due to its newness). Remember, this is basically a 2-door Holden Commodore (same chassis since 1998 or so), and the Monaro's been built since 2001/2002, so this is not a brand new platform.
Since it uses Holden's V-chassis, it's not familiar to a lot of U.S. dealerships, and many of them frankly don't know how to service/troubleshoot the car. I would probably not have purchased my GTO from the dealership that I did had I known this... suggest you look around, ask other Pontiac owners, and see if you can find a good one.
Having said that, my replacement car's been my daily driver now for 2 months, and I'm finally going to take it in for a couple of cosmetic problems (nothing mechanical). Very pleased.
#2877 of 4353 Re: Winter driving. [mitsurob]
May 31, 2005 (6:16 pm)
if the GTO is anything like the 5 Z28s & firebirds i drove through about 20 new england & upstate new york winters, it will do just fine in snow, but only if you put 4 good snow tires on it. i used blizzaks on my recent Z28s and at stoplights was often be able to out-accelerate the 4WD/AWD vehicles that did not have snow tires. more importantly with the blizzaks, i could out-brake most cars& trucks on snowy or icy roads. but i had to be careful with the braking, due to the ever-present tailgators !
as for problems with the cars, from what i've read, not many, not major, nothing unfixable... i plan on ordering a 2006 (or 2007?) at some point, hopefully at invoice price!
#2878 of 4353 Re: Winter driving. [elias]
Jun 01, 2005 (5:13 am)
Agreed. I put Dunlop Graspic DS-2s on my 95 Camaro Z28 last winter and it was amazing in the snow. I literally was flying by 4WD/AWD vehicles on the highway. However, these tires had dismal performance in normal dry conditions. There's always a tradeoff.
#2881 of 4353 Fog Lamp Indicator
Jun 01, 2005 (7:19 pm)
Has anyone else had the problem with the fog lamp indicator staying on when the fog lamps are off?
This is the only problem I have encountered so far in this incredible car (900 miles, 2005, automatic).
Guess I'll go to the dealership and get it fixed - such a minor thing, but it is annoying.
#2882 of 4353 GTO vs. STi
Jun 01, 2005 (11:51 pm)
that comparison was weird.
One car is a GT/muscle car while the STi is a rally car.
I only enjoyed the sound of the GTO's V-8 in that video.
#2883 of 4353 Pontiac GTO race car
Jun 01, 2005 (11:56 pm)
TGR (The Racer's Group) will run two Pontiac GTOs in the Grand American Rolex Sports Car Series at Daytona International Speedway on June 30.
Only four weeks away!
#2885 of 4353 HI PERFORMANCE PONTIAC MAG.AUG.05 by m.paris1
Jun 02, 2005 (7:35 am)
"if you want a GTO.....you better get one by 2006".....