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Toyota 4Runner Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Actual Ardous Purchasing Experience by alibajalajaula
Jan 29, 2005 (9:42 pm)
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kcom2006
thanks for your input. I went thru the fax war gyrations of the motley fool but it didn't work. Of three inquiries I got acknowledge from 2, and only 1 called and we engaged in some discusion of models and options. Looks like dealers in Houston prefer to deal in person, not by fax nor internet. Time was running down on the $1000 incentive so I decided to arm myself with the best numbers and hit the dealer that gave me most info on my prospective car.
In the end I pulled the trigger last night with a
MODEL 8642A 2005 4RUNNER 4 DOOR SR5
STRATOSPHERE MICA 08QO/DARK GREY FG12 INVOICE MSRP
MFG BASE PRICES 23727.00 27495.00
TOTAL FACTORY OPTIONS 564.00 705.00
TOTAL PORT OPTIONS 269.00 533.00
DELIVERY 595.00 595.00
T.D.A. 275.00 0.00
M.A.F. 379.00 0.00
2%HOLDBACK MSRP 549.00 0.00
PIO HOLDBACK 42.00 0.00
DEALER ADDED OPTIONS 0.00 0.00
FLEET PRICE PROTECTION 0.00 0.00
1%FINANCE RESERVE MSRP 274.00 0.00
FLEET CREDIT 0.00 0.00
**PRICING TOTALS** 26674.00 29328.00

CODE -----------------------DESCRIPTION-------------------------------- --- INVOICE MSRP
AW17" ALLOY WHEELS W P265/65R17 80.00 100.00
CM DOUBLE DECKER CARGO 100.00 125.00
DR BLACK ROOF RACK 176.00 220.00
FE 50 STATES EMISSIONS 0.00 0.00
NE LEATHER STEERING WHEEL 176.00 220.00
RL DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS 32.00 40.00
TOTAL FACTORY OPTIONS 564.00 705.00

*PORT INSTALLED (BM) 0.00 0.00
*PORT INSTALLED (SN) 0.00 0.00
P4 VEHICLE SHIELD PACKAGE 95.50 349.00
M5 CARPET MAT SET (5 PC) 112.00 184.00
F1 VIP SALES FOLLOW UP 6.95 0.00
I2 PDS WITH TEXAS STATE INSP. 46.75 0.00
G1 VEHICLE FUELING 7.80 0.00
TOTAL PORT OPTIONS 269.00 533.00

PRICE AGREED = INVOICE+200 W/WHEEL LOCKS INCLUDED
MINUS 1000$ CASH INCENTIVE
PRICE AGREED = 25874.00 AFTER REBATE+TTL
 
I wasn't able to reconstruct this pricing independently from KBB or TMV Edmunds, so at first it was kind of difficult to validate. I did some cross shopping with another dealer (Sterling) which allowed me to corroborate the figures. In the end I bought from Champions on Gulf Freeway. It was hard nosed because when I came to trade in my van, they wanted to lowball it initially, until we arrived at a reasonable amount.
But I finally got my 4Runner and it sure runs like silk.....
#850 of 1781
Re: 2005 V8 Sport - Good deal (so far) [tripowertom] by sr34
Jan 30, 2005 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: tripowertom (Jan 11, 2005 5:00 pm)

Tripowertom,
 
Did you pull the deal off for 05 Sport? I am in NE as well. Looking to see how you made out.
 
Thanks!!
#851 of 1781
Feb 2005 4Runner incentives by mntim
Jan 31, 2005 (10:51 pm)
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Any info out there yet on 4Runner incentives for February 2005? Hoping to get one this month, if the price is right. Thanks.
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Re: Feb 2005 4Runner incentives [mntim] by woof woof
Feb 01, 2005 (7:33 pm)
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Replying to: mntim (Jan 31, 2005 10:51 pm)

rebates are now 1k
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Re: Feb 2005 4Runner incentives [woof woof] by mntim
Feb 01, 2005 (9:44 pm)
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Replying to: woof woof (Feb 01, 2005 7:33 pm)

thanks woof. I learned from my dealer today that the cash rebate for Feb. is the same as Jan, which in the Minneapolis area is $900.
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Re: Actual Ardous Purchasing Experience [alibajalajaula] by 7art
Feb 02, 2005 (5:36 am)
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Replying to: alibajalajaula (Jan 29, 2005 9:42 pm)

How do holdbacks work? My very definite understanding from Edmunds, and others, is that you take the dealer invoice and SUBTRACT the holdback to get true dealer cost. The numbers outlined in alibajalajaula's message below do the same thing a Toyota dealer in Cincinnati just tried to pull on me - they list out all the charges, TDA, fueling cost, holdback, etc., then ADD them all to create a supposed bottom line cost to them.
 
As far as I can tell, they are double dipping - not subtracting the holdback they are getting, and adding it back into the invoice price a second time.
 
What gives? Are they all playing this game, or do I misunderstand how Toyota's costs are calculated.
 
Note that the error I got was not a salesman's hand calculations, where he made an honest mistake - this was the computer printout !!!
 
Art
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Re: Actual Ardous Purchasing Experience [7art] by kirstie_h HOST
Feb 02, 2005 (10:03 am)
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Replying to: 7art (Feb 02, 2005 5:36 am)

You might have a look at our Dealer Holdback discussion.
 
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#857 of 1781
Re: Actual Ardous Purchasing Experience [7art] by alibajalajaula
Feb 02, 2005 (2:12 pm)
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Replying to: 7art (Feb 02, 2005 5:36 am)

Art
How about that finance reserve line item? Is that also supposed to be subtracted a la "holdbacks"?When I arrived, my invoice figures (Edmunds/KBB) where roughly $500 below. This is one of those where you don't wanna know more than you should because it's a fait accomplí - done deal. On the other hand I look at the bright side of it, I needed the car (as much as I wanted), our van was pretty much finished and I got a trade-in value that beat by $500 the original trade-in price by the dealer. By the way, I never mentioned trade the first day, only when I showed to pick up the car, and the new car price was frozen. At this point I used as leverage the fact we had spent several hours reaching price agreements, plus the fact I had another identical deal with a better trade-in price (+$500), and the real fact that the minute I walked out of there, my business was going somewhere else. Minutes later we cut the deal. The last straw was that I had my own credit union financing arranged, so they were not going to screw me there either.
alibajalajaula
#858 of 1781
I paid... by tjh
Feb 02, 2005 (2:26 pm)
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Last march i picked up an grey SR5 4WD with racks, moon roof, and a few small options in Southern California for about $30k out the door. The price before fees etc... was below invoice, but I dont remember the exact #'s. I LOVE the 4Runner though. Best midsize SUV in my opinion.

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