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Toyota 4Runner, SUV
Did you get a good deal on your 4Runner?
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#821 of 2055 Re: 2004 Toyota 4Runner Leftover [rjordan]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
Jan 05, 2005 (6:21 am)
Some people say you have to pay advertizing fees. My invoice does not show this. So maybe its hidden somewhere. This I feel is negotiable.
Check the sticker that was on the window (factory sticker). It should list an advertising fee. If the ad fee is listed on that sticker, then in all likelihood it's not negotiable - just like the destination fee, it's a cost charged to the dealership by the manufacturer. The ad fee on your vehicle may have been paid by the original owner, and therefore you weren't charged for it again.
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#822 of 2055 Re: 2004 Toyota 4Runner Leftover [rjordan]
Jan 05, 2005 (12:15 pm)
Right now is a very good time to buy an '04. In the Southeast region, dealers are advertising new '04 Limited V8s that have an MSRP of $39,690 at a selling price of $33,988.
#823 of 2055 Re: 2004 Toyota 4Runner Leftover [kirstie_h]
Jan 05, 2005 (6:06 pm)
I checked the Factory window sticker and there was no advertizing fee indicated. But I seem to recall an article from a Buyer's agent that in some localities, the fee is part of the base invoice price, so you don't really see it.
#824 of 2055 Re: 2004 Toyota 4Runner Leftover [tommyg12]
Jan 05, 2005 (6:11 pm)
I can believe it. Are the southeast dealers quoting a price before or after any rebates?
#825 of 2055 Painful buying Experience
Jan 06, 2005 (10:48 am)
We made an offer on a 2005 4runner, SR5, V6 at 27,700 through Ensign Toyota in Logan, Utah. They agreed to the deal. The dealer invoice price on the car is 28,166, but there is a deal from Toyota that you either get $750 off or you get a special deal on financing. We didn’t need the financing, so took the $750. We offered a little more than 28166 - 750. The only additional costs we were told about were taxes, license, recycling ($5), and docs ($239). The dealership agreed to the deal. However, as we went into sign the papers, they had added a $565 destination charge. This came as a surprise, but since we had gotten a good deal, the reaction was “Oh, I guess it wasn’t quite as good of a deal as we thought.” We signed the papers, and were to pick up the car the next day. No money exchanged hands. After we left, the feelings turned from “it wasn’t quite as good a deal as we thought” to “that seems dishonest to promise us a deal and then add extra fees we weren’t told about”. We attempted to get out of the deal. We sent faxes both to the dealership and the credit union (who was providing partial financing) so we had a paper trail. We were told a variety of things:
Friend: The dealer never signed your copy of the papers. The contract is invalid.
Credit Union: No money changed hands and you didn’t pick up the car. You can cancel the deal. They would be silly to make an issue of it. It would cost them more than it would be worth to pursue it.
Dealer: You’ve signed the papers; you have to go through with it. The three-day buyer’s remorse rule is not law. It is up to the dealership whether they allow you to walk away from the deal, and we don’t allow it.
Second Dealer: In the meantime, we called another dealer and arranged for almost the same deal. Their numbers were: 28,166 (invoice) – 750 (rebate) + 417 (PAC) = 27833. They were so eager to help us (they can make a sale investing 10 minutes on the phone) and said there was a Utah Auto Dealership lawyer that would work with us if we needed help.
Dealer: When confronted with a dealer that would match the original deal, Ensign said they would deduct the 565 from the selling price. We told him we still wanted out of the deal as we didn’t feel comfortable with them. Ensign refused to let us out. How much money must they be making if they fight like dogs to sell the car at $1000 below dealer invoice?
Things I would do in the future:
1. Ask for full “out the door pricing” on the purchase agreement. Get it in writing and have the credit union look at the purchase agreement to detect abnormalities.
2. Don’t sign if you have any reservations.
3. Make sure you have a statement saying what features come with the car (the sticker info).
4. REALLY check over the car before you take possession. Check the paint, carpet, etc. Once you take it off the lot, you have a lot more problems getting things fixed.
5. Don’t take possession of the car the day the papers are written up. Give yourself a day to make sure everything is in order.
#826 of 2055 Re: 2004 Toyota 4Runner Leftover [rjordan]
Jan 07, 2005 (2:00 am)
hmmm, I don't see the rebates listed on the web sites, good question. I would assume that the selling price is after rebate.
Jan 08, 2005 (9:48 am)
Looking for a 2005 V8 4x4 with tow package and live in Baltimore area whats a good price and how much over or under invoice is a good price for one with very little mileage, and what rebates are they offering since the Jan3 rebates expired
#828 of 2055 Re: [m6buyer]
Jan 08, 2005 (11:22 am)
did some research on the rebates to answ. my own ques1000 off 05, 1250 off 04, 2000 off 2004V8
Jan 10, 2005 (8:39 am)
Looking for a 2005 v8 Sport 4x4 in Buffalo area, anyone have suggestions on best place to buy, for price and service..Any rebates
#830 of 2055 XREAS Suspension question for those in the know!
Jan 10, 2005 (11:25 am)
I am currently looking for a 2003 or 2004 4Runner- prefer the V-8 2WD version (live in the South). I am not crazy about the two-tone plastic on the 03 model (the hood scoop is okay). I really want the Xreas suspension/shock system, and know for sure it is on all Sport models, and a stand-alone options on others. I have been looking at 4Runners on Autotrader and calling dealerships, but many of the salespeople have been clueless as to what X-Reas is, let alone how to tell if one of the vehicles on the lot have the system. To further confuse things, some of these same bright people are labelling 4Runners as SR5/Sport in their ads (ones that clearly don't have a hood scoop in the photos). Is there any other way to visually tell is the car has Xreas as an add-on option? I have noticed looking at the interiors that all Sports (and some non-sport models) have a leather shift knob and leather covered steering wheel and others have a hard plastic. Is this the clue I am looking for? Thanks for any input you may have!