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Toyota 4Runner, SUV
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#1900 of 2055 (1) Price Paid and (2) Should I Sell Before Recall?
Apr 25, 2010 (1:19 pm)
I bought a new 2010 4Runner in January 2010, just as they first arrived on my dealer's showroom floor. I had been shopping for 6 months to replace my 2002 X-Terra, which was, by the way, an excellent car all-around, but it looked like an off-road vehicle with lots of scratches, dents, dings, stains on upholstery, etc. I used it as a car to haul things back and forth to the barn, for dog transport, etc. It had been really put to good use, and was a great utility vehicle, but was in scratch and dent condition. It was loved.
My dealership was Toyota of Hattiesburg (MS) and I had a very good experience buying the car. It only took about one hour to complete the deal, start to finish, and I was on my way. They've been very good about answering my questions following the sale, and also answering questions about the Toyota recall.
I subscribed to several services to help me arrive at the correct price for my 4Runner. What I learned was that, pre-recall, there were no discounts to be had on the 2010 4Runner. I looked around for a 2010 4Runner and eventually paid the full sticker price of $43,850, plus tax and title for a 2010 Limited with every possible feature, except no third row seats: mine has the pullout tailgate party package. I should note that the dealer gave me $5,000 for the X-Terra mentioned above, which was probably $2,000 more than it was worth. The new 4Runner has been a great car so far, and I have few complaints (the interior lighting is not very good, and the USB port is in an impossible spot to access). I love the full-time 4WD---it was great with the bad weather, snow and ice we had this winter.
However, all of that being said, I parked it last month and have not driven it again. Unlike die-hard former 4Runner owners I read on the blogs, I am afraid that Toyota is not fully disclosing everything, and that the 4Runner is the next shoe to drop. I've read several credible accounts of unintended acceleration in the 4Runner, and frankly I just don't want to wait to find out. I know I'll take a beating on the sale (it has 5,000 miles and 2 dealers have offered me $35,000 to buy it) and I would prefer to keep it if someone can tell me definitively that the system used in other Toyotas is not the same one used in the 4Runner.
I tried to swap it this weekend for a 2010 Ford F-150 King Ranch Demo with 5800 miles, but haven't yet been able to reconcile myself to the financial beating I'll take. I'd really prefer to keep the 4Runner.
Any comments, suggestions and advice would be greatly appreciated.
#1901 of 2055 Re: (1) Price Paid and (2) Should I Sell Before Recall? [friedgreen]
Apr 25, 2010 (2:35 pm)
Your post doesn't hold water. Having just done a google search, I'm unable locate any documentation or articles that would suggest the 4Runner has issues with unintended acceleration.
Of course you had a good buying experience, you are a car dealership's dream - you paid full price for a vehicle that, had you dealt with dealers, could of been discounted to invoice or about 500 over invoice. There is no party mode/sliding tray "package" as you suggest - those are standard on the Limited. A Limited w/ Navigation (no third row seating) and a few other throw in options (floor mats, exhaust tip, cross bars) should cost under $43,000. Looks like you paid additional dollars for dealer stuff, undercoating, weather protection, etc.
You clearly state that you like your vehicle and it seems are basing your decision not to drive because of rumors that can not be substantiated. Should you trade, you indicate that you'll get $35,000 for your Toyota - a loss of about $8,500. Sounds like a fear based decision without much fact to support your assertion.
If you're willing to take a loss that great, based on fiction rather than fact - that's your decision, though fiscally seems rather ill-advised.
Sounds like there's some other underlying issue here that you haven't documented in your post.
#1902 of 2055 Re: (1) Price Paid and (2) Should I Sell Before Recall? [fxoffroad]
Apr 25, 2010 (5:31 pm)
There are actually several reports of 4Runners and unintended acceleration, and here is a link to one of them:
URL to article: http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-toyota-4runner-exhibits-acceleration-brake-sy- mptoms.html
If you wish for me to, I will post links to additional articles on acceleration, as well as linkage, transmission, rust and related problems with the 4Runner which Toyota has recently owned up to, but of which 4Runner owners have long complained.
No, I am not a car-bargain shopper, and there were a ton of dealer-installed goodies...it's a great vehicle. However, there is nothing I'm failing to disclose in the post. I am concerned about Toyota's failure to own up to the other problems in their extensive line. I hoped by posting here, someone who had similar concerns might help point me in the direction of information showing that the 4Runner should not be expected to experience problems.
#1903 of 2055 Re: (1) Price Paid and (2) Should I Sell Before Recall? [friedgreen]
Apr 25, 2010 (6:16 pm)
You asked for feedback, and I gave you some. Being defensive really doesn't drive your point home. You found one, just one article on the net about a 2004 - and that article isn't even "proven to be an issue".
Sounds like you just want to stir the pot. Or you purchased a vehicle and didn't think it through - which is evident by the price you paid for the vehicle.
Why don't you take your vehicle back to the dealer and make them buy it back.
#1905 of 2055 2005 4Runner
Apr 26, 2010 (4:07 pm)
Just bought another 4Runner, my second in about 20 months. Unfortunately my FIL totaled the first one, a 2006 Anyway, I finally found another V8, need it for towing, which you can only get a used one. This one was in good condition overall, needed a little owners TLC with the cleaning, dealer did not do a good job with prep. Paid just over 20K out the door. It is a Limited with the air ride, Navi, Back up Camera, leather, moonroof, etc...the only thing I can see missing compared to my 2006 was the seat memory. Although the 06 did not have the air ride, Navi and Back up Camera. TMV came in around 20k for the car and I got it for it with all the fees, taxes, etc.
Apr 26, 2010 (4:40 pm)
How many miles were on it and what year. I have been looking for a V8 as well.
#1907 of 2055 Re: Miles On It [tangman]
Apr 26, 2010 (4:48 pm)
2005, and 53,000. I bought it in North Jersey.
#1908 of 2055 Re: (1) Price Paid and (2) Should I Sell Before Recall? [friedgreen]
Apr 26, 2010 (8:43 pm)
Drive and enjoy your 4Runner. All vehicles have issues, but I haven't heard of UA on any 4Runner.
#1909 of 2055 Re: (1) Price Paid and (2) Should I Sell Before Recall? [canddmeyer]
Apr 26, 2010 (9:41 pm)
The previous 4th generation having SUA (sudden unintended acceleration) is completely nonsense. There are other "4Runner Forums" on the net and now many 4th generation 4Runner owners have well over 100K on them with little or no issues.
I have not read ONE REPORT of SUA on ANY 4Runner forum involving the 4th generation.
I have 75,000 miles on mine with just a sunroof that got off-track and one shock that leaked. I tow a 5,000 pound 21 foot travel trailer on a regular basis.
You basing your decision not to drive yours based on ONE REPORT on the net? After all, everything you read on the net is TRUE, isn't it?