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Re: Looking for some input on the 3 [bottgers] by scwmcan
Sep 27, 2007 (4:03 am)
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Replying to: bottgers (Sep 26, 2007 4:17 am)

For the record I routinely get the epa milage with my 3 hatch (2.3 litre 5 speed manual), and this is driving at 70-80 mph. If I could manage to drive at 60-65 mph for a whole tank I am sure that I could beat the epa estimates. BTW I don't think engine technology is thereason the Mazdas do a bit worse for milage, I think it is the gearing, Mazda wants the cars to feel powerful for passing in top gear so they are geared for performance, I.e. they are reving quite high, I think with the 2.3 at least there is good power even down low and they could have geared the car more for economy by dropping the revs on the highway by at least 500 rpm, I think that would have made up most of the difference in milage betweeen a cicic/corrolla and a 3.
Scott
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Re: Looking for some input on the 3 [scwmcan] by kyfdx HOST
Sep 27, 2007 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: scwmcan (Sep 27, 2007 4:03 am)

Those big 17" tires/wheels don't do much for gas mileage, either.. Big sporty air dams, etc, etc.... Those all increase drag and/or friction.
 
I think the engine technology is okay.. the efficiency/power trade-off seems good. But, sporty options (and most Mazda3 are pretty sporty, compared to the average Civic or Corolla) will put a hit on mileage..
 
Worth the trade-off, IMO...
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Re: Looking for some input on the 3 [kyfdx] by roadburner
Sep 27, 2007 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Sep 27, 2007 6:24 am)

(and most Mazda3 are pretty sporty, compared to the average Civic or Corolla)
 
Mazdas tend to be more driver-oriented than the equivalent Hondas and Toyotas. There's certainly a market for inexpensive yet fun to drive cars. Honda used to be the major player in that niche, but now -like Toyota- their cars are becoming plain vanilla transportation appliances(Civic Si and S2000 excepted).
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Re: Looking for some input on the 3 [roadburner] by bottgers
Sep 28, 2007 (3:59 am)
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Replying to: roadburner (Sep 26, 2007 4:44 am)

Like I said, while YOU feel that way, I'm sure most people would rahter have better fuel economy.
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Re: Looking for some input on the 3 [bottgers] by roadburner
Sep 28, 2007 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: bottgers (Sep 28, 2007 3:59 am)

I'm sure most people would rahter have better fuel economy.
 
I guess that explains why a lot of Mazda dealers have put ADM stickers on their Mazdaspeed3s- and also why you can't get one on S Plan...
Look, I've done the math; if I drive 15,000 miles per year and average 22 mpg I'll use 682 gallons of gas. At $3.50 per gallon that works out to $2387. So, let's assume I buy a fuel sipper that will average 35 mpg. In 15,000 miles I will have used 429 gallons, which at $3.50 per gallon would amount to $1500- a savings of $887. That's $74 a month, or less than $2.50 per day. From my perspective, $2.50 a day is an extremely small price to pay to drive a car that makes me grin every time I slide behind the wheel.
But to each his own...
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Re: Looking for some input on the 3 [roadburner] by bottgers
Sep 28, 2007 (6:08 am)
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Replying to: roadburner (Sep 28, 2007 5:46 am)

As the price of gas goes up (and it will continue to do so), that number gets bigger. I'm not saying cars that put a smile on your face should go away. I'm saying auto makers should be more focussed on building more fuel efficient vehicles than they currently appear to be.
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Re: Looking for some input on the 3 [roadburner] by autonomous
Sep 28, 2007 (9:36 am)
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Replying to: roadburner (Sep 28, 2007 5:46 am)

Look, I've done the math; if I drive 15,000 miles per year and average 22 mpg I'll use 682 gallons of gas. At $3.50 per gallon that works out to $2387 ... a fuel sipper that will average 35 mpg. In 15,000 miles I will have used 429 gallons, which at $3.50 per gallon would amount to $1500- a savings of $887.
 
Remember that the Mazdaspeed3 uses premium fuel and the Mazda3 uses regular; the fuel savings would be around $1000 per year.
 
Since most drivers keep their cars for more than one year, one should also calculate the difference over a longer period (like 3 or 5 years). So, that would mean the Mazdaspeed3 is now $3000 to $5000 more than the Mazda3.
 
Also, one should also factor in the additional maintenance required for the turbo speed.
 
But, as you say, to each his own. The Mazdaspeed3 is an impressive machine.
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Re: Looking for some input on the 3 [autonomous] by iz24too
Sep 30, 2007 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: autonomous (Sep 28, 2007 9:36 am)

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Ground clearance change by iz24too
Sep 30, 2007 (7:23 am)
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I notice that the 06 and older models ground clearance is a little higher -5.90 vs. 4.8 on newer models, 4.8 does seems low to me since we have snow/slush 5 months out of the year just wondering your take!?
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Re: Air Dam Option [jazzmin] by igozoomzoom
Oct 06, 2007 (1:13 am)
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Replying to: jazzmin (Sep 26, 2007 1:38 pm)

Quick suggestion, before you order one (if the dealer will even do that)- use the inventory search tool on Mazda's website. It requires a zip code and will search up to a 150 mile radius from it. If you want to expand your search beyond 150 miles, look up a zip code that is roughly 200 miles away or so. Of course, you'll have to travel to wherever you locate it to buy it but it might be worth it.
 
That's exactly what I did back in 12/05 when I was looking for my MZ3 5-door. I'm in Atlanta, but the closest ones I could find in Titanium Gray with manual transmission were in Knoxville TN and Charlotte NC. I ended up getting almost $2k off sticker from the dealer in Knoxville and it was well worth the three hour trip to get exactly what I wanted and not wait for it.
 
Your chances of getting much of a discount on an ordered car are pretty low, too. Buying one on the lot will always be a better deal as long as it's what you want.

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