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Replying to: dudleyr (Jan 24, 2007 12:13 pm) I should be able to easily average my goal of 25 mpg in my normal split of driving, I just happen to not be logging as many hwy miles as usual this week. I shudder to think of what the auto would have given me in these conditions. I am also using http://www.brianbauer.org to log my mileage.
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Replying to: claudius753 (Jan 24, 2007 1:48 pm)
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Replying to: bigfur (Jan 24, 2007 3:15 pm) I too use the cell phone before I drive off, I calculate and write the miles / mpg on the receipt and reset the trip for the next tank. I am a bit anal about mpg, I calculate nearly every tank, and usually stay at a constant range. Cavalier was lowest at 22 mpg with very aggressive driving and highest around 26.
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Replying to: claudius753 (Jan 24, 2007 7:08 pm) |
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Replying to: dudleyr (Jan 24, 2007 12:13 pm)
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Replying to: marscat (Jan 27, 2007 8:11 am)
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Replying to: maltb (Jan 29, 2007 10:12 am) |
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More power with more weight = same speed. I honestly don't think consumers demand more power it is just kind of forced on us. Cars are advertised by their power (ie: the 250 hp RX-8, instead of just the RX-8) The power actually gets top billing. This leads consumers to the mistaken conclusion that more power makes a car faster. The consumer then asks for the power. Of course we all know that a 250 hp Suburban is slower than a 150 hp Mazda3, and much slower than a 250 hp RX-8 (or whatever other example is relevant).
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Replying to: dudleyr (Jan 29, 2007 11:40 am) Forced on us huh? Would you buy a 110hp Mazda3? If Mazda sold such a thing in the US it would make headlines as the slowest vehicle ever sold. Even Consumer Reports would say it's too slow in the guise of poor passing performance. Yes, consumers have demanded it, directly or indirectly. |
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I would love a 110 hp Mazda3 - I would buy one tomorrow if they had it in the hatchback. With a stick shift it would probably be about as fast as the current 2.0 automatic, and would get near hybrid mpg. The 1.5 liter Protege only had 92 hp. I used to have a 76 hp VW Scirocco. It was plenty fast - how much over 100 mph do you really need to go?  52 hp in a VW bus is slow (the only vehicle CR rated not acceptable because of speed). 110hp in a small economy car is not even close to slow. Mazda RX-7 had 105 hp when it came out. The original VW GTI had about the same. Those were two of the most fun to drive cars ever made. I know cars weigh more now so sure a litte more hp is fine, but when people start saying you need to have 200 hp to get out of your own way that is just misinformed. Too many people just focus on the hp number which does not mean much by itself. Kinda like saying an offensive lineman is faster than a wide reciever because he has stronger legs (superbowl is coming up - forgive me). Ironically as much as people are overconcerned about power they seem to forget that adding an automatic saps so much of that power. Consumer Reports got the 2.0 Mazda3 at 8.6 seconds to 60 mph nearly 2 seconds faster than the automatic. How come nobody says why buy an automatic because it would be the "slowest vehicle ever sold"?  I guess as long as we can buy oil oversees we can keep turning up the power.  off soapbox
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