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The dealer found nothing wrong with my "economy" car. No explanation of the 19 mpg. They did work up a deal where I could get the exact same car but with a manual transmission. For the same payments, it would cost me about an extra $1,000 (basically taxes and fees) or alternatively I would have to pay an extra $16 a month. They are also going to contact Mazda and see if they would have a solution to the problem or if they would subsidize some of the cost associated with getting a manual. What would you do? I do kind of miss driving a manual and it would clear up the mileage issue. I would be taking a $2000 hit though (extra down plus manual costs less than the auto I paid for). If Mazda has no solution but are willing to kick back some cash to equalize the prices, I think I should get the manual. Ideas?
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Run the numbers - Lets say the manual will get 29 MPG - where the auto is only getting 19. Not sure it would be this much of an improvement - but just as an example - hoping for the best. To drive 50,000 miles takes 2,632 gallons with the auto - 1,724 gallons with the manual. You save 908 gallons - at about $2.20 a gallon about = to the $2,000 you spent trading. SO -- You need to drive about 50,000 miles just to be even. IMO its not a great pay back - unless you drive a lot of miles - the real question is - do you want a manual? Another good question (one I am asking myself) would be - do you want to buy another new car from a company that did very little to solve the problems you had with the first car? |
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Replying to: claudius753 (Jan 19, 2007 5:47 pm) How old is your car? Is it a 2007 or 2006? Will the car that you are getting be new, i.e. 2007? I do kind of miss driving a manual Could you elaborate why you picked the automatic? Lots of city driving is cited often as a reason for switching to automatic transmission.
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Replying to: autonomous (Jan 22, 2007 1:13 pm) I wanted an auto because other people would occasionally need to drive the car and I did sometimes dislike having to shift in the Cavalier I had. Now with the manual in the 3, I see that not all shifters are created equally. The 3 in an auto was nice, very nice, but the 3 in the manual is sheer joy. I also opted not to get leather in my new one, I like the cloth better, and instead got a few other options for the ~$600 saved by not getting leather. Had I driven the manual 3 before choosing the automatic, I would have never bought the automatic. If people need to use my car, they can either learn manual or drive something else. I don't think I'll ever buy another car with a conventional automatic. Maybe if I ever need a truck to tow things or a sequential manual like DSG, but no car with a torque converter again. |
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| Please let us know how the mpg of the manual compares to the automatic. I am considering a manual 3s, but do not want to have mileage issues. | |
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Replying to: dudleyr (Jan 24, 2007 12:13 pm) |
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Replying to: dudleyr (Jan 24, 2007 12:13 pm) I should be able to easily average my goal of 25 mpg in my normal split of driving, I just happen to not be logging as many hwy miles as usual this week. I shudder to think of what the auto would have given me in these conditions. I am also using http://www.brianbauer.org to log my mileage.
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Replying to: claudius753 (Jan 24, 2007 1:48 pm)
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Replying to: bigfur (Jan 24, 2007 3:15 pm) I too use the cell phone before I drive off, I calculate and write the miles / mpg on the receipt and reset the trip for the next tank. I am a bit anal about mpg, I calculate nearly every tank, and usually stay at a constant range. Cavalier was lowest at 22 mpg with very aggressive driving and highest around 26.
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Replying to: claudius753 (Jan 24, 2007 7:08 pm) |
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