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Re: Corolla [claudius753] by autonomous
Jan 19, 2007 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: claudius753 (Jan 18, 2007 7:58 pm)

My 3 is at the dealer for service to see if they can figure out a reason for my sub 20 mpg hwy mileage. I got a free loaner ... a recent model Toyota Corolla, ~1700 miles ... I would rather drive my Mazda at 19 mpg than get 100 mpg in a Corolla
 
Interesting. I had a similar experience when my Mazda Protege5 was being repaired and the dealership offered a luxury Kia which I found to be an ungainly vehicle. Perhaps this is a strategy by dealerships to make one appreciate one's vehicle: offer them the competition.
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autonomous by z71bill
Jan 19, 2007 (11:22 am)
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I think most dealers just use some of the cars that were traded in.
 
You need to ask - why a Mazda dealer would even have a Corolla with only 1,700 on the odometer? That is a sure sign that someone either had major problems with the car (not that likely) - or after a few weeks figured out they just did not like the vehicle (pretty likely).
 
I bet they took a major hit when they traded it in.
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Re: autonomous [z71bill] by audia8q
Jan 19, 2007 (2:12 pm)
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Replying to: z71bill (Jan 19, 2007 11:22 am)

sure sign that someone either had major problems with the car (not that likely) - or after a few weeks figured out they just did not like the vehicle (pretty likely
 
We see this happen once or twice a month...last week a lady traded her 2006 Volvo XC-90 with only 4000 miles...nothing wrong with the car, she just didn't like it. She also took a big hit...She purchased a new town car. Go figure.
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Car by claudius753
Jan 19, 2007 (5:47 pm)
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The dealer found nothing wrong with my "economy" car. No explanation of the 19 mpg.
 
They did work up a deal where I could get the exact same car but with a manual transmission. For the same payments, it would cost me about an extra $1,000 (basically taxes and fees) or alternatively I would have to pay an extra $16 a month.
 
They are also going to contact Mazda and see if they would have a solution to the problem or if they would subsidize some of the cost associated with getting a manual.
 
What would you do? I do kind of miss driving a manual and it would clear up the mileage issue. I would be taking a $2000 hit though (extra down plus manual costs less than the auto I paid for). If Mazda has no solution but are willing to kick back some cash to equalize the prices, I think I should get the manual. Ideas?
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claudius753 by z71bill
Jan 21, 2007 (7:59 am)
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Run the numbers -
 
Lets say the manual will get 29 MPG - where the auto is only getting 19. Not sure it would be this much of an improvement - but just as an example - hoping for the best.
 
To drive 50,000 miles takes 2,632 gallons with the auto - 1,724 gallons with the manual.
 
You save 908 gallons - at about $2.20 a gallon about = to the $2,000 you spent trading. SO --
 
You need to drive about 50,000 miles just to be even.
 
IMO its not a great pay back - unless you drive a lot of miles - the real question is - do you want a manual?
 
Another good question (one I am asking myself) would be - do you want to buy another new car from a company that did very little to solve the problems you had with the first car?
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Re: Car [claudius753] by autonomous
Jan 22, 2007 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: claudius753 (Jan 19, 2007 5:47 pm)

I would be taking a $2000 hit though (extra down plus manual costs less than the auto I paid for).
 
How old is your car? Is it a 2007 or 2006? Will the car that you are getting be new, i.e. 2007?
 
I do kind of miss driving a manual
Could you elaborate why you picked the automatic? Lots of city driving is cited often as a reason for switching to automatic transmission.
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Re: Car [autonomous] by claudius753
Jan 22, 2007 (3:48 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Jan 22, 2007 1:13 pm)

My car was a 2007 MZ3s. The car I got today is new, another 2007 MZ3s but in the manual.
 
I wanted an auto because other people would occasionally need to drive the car and I did sometimes dislike having to shift in the Cavalier I had. Now with the manual in the 3, I see that not all shifters are created equally. The 3 in an auto was nice, very nice, but the 3 in the manual is sheer joy. I also opted not to get leather in my new one, I like the cloth better, and instead got a few other options for the ~$600 saved by not getting leather.
 
Had I driven the manual 3 before choosing the automatic, I would have never bought the automatic. If people need to use my car, they can either learn manual or drive something else.
 
I don't think I'll ever buy another car with a conventional automatic. Maybe if I ever need a truck to tow things or a sequential manual like DSG, but no car with a torque converter again.
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- by dudleyr
Jan 24, 2007 (12:13 pm)
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Please let us know how the mpg of the manual compares to the automatic. I am considering a manual 3s, but do not want to have mileage issues.
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Re: - [dudleyr] by mazdazoom
Jan 24, 2007 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: dudleyr (Jan 24, 2007 12:13 pm)

Well I have a 2004 2.3 Mazda 3, I drive pretty hard usually and I see an average of 26-28 MPG (80% highway). If I baby it I can get an average of 29-30 MPG. I like the manual, just more fun to drive. A manual should always be more efficient vs. an automatic.
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Re: - [dudleyr] by claudius753
Jan 24, 2007 (1:48 pm)
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Replying to: dudleyr (Jan 24, 2007 12:13 pm)

I have been logging my mpg on the Mazda 3 mpg thread, I haven't used a tank of gas yet in the manual but it looks like it may be around 22 mpg so far with just over 100 miles total on the car, 80% city 10% highway and 10% up and down the mountain with a little fun through the corners.
 
I should be able to easily average my goal of 25 mpg in my normal split of driving, I just happen to not be logging as many hwy miles as usual this week. I shudder to think of what the auto would have given me in these conditions.
 
I am also using http://www.brianbauer.org to log my mileage.

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