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#214 of 375 Looking to buy in San Francisco
Oct 10, 2005 (2:56 pm)
I just lost my beloved Celica GTS (stop sign runner, uninsured, naturally!), and have a big mortgage, so thought I'd have to settle for a downgrade to a Civic. When I realized I could get an Acura RSX for not much more, the pain was a lot less!
I asked for bids in the SF Bay Area on a 2005 RSX with leather and they've all come back with offers for 2006, in the range of 22K. When you start negotiations on the web, will they come down once you show up for a test drive? I'm asking for an OTD price in my replies, but no responses to that yet. I was figuring they'd be more flexible on 2005 pricing, so don't know if the 2006 replies mean that inventory is low, or they're just trying to upsell me.
Any recommendation/warnings about dealerships in the Bay Area?
#215 of 375 Re: Looking to buy in San Francisco [robinsf]
Oct 11, 2005 (12:10 am)
Hmm... I got my 05 RSX Type S at Mike Harvey in Burlingame, which a few people say is a rip-off dealership for $24+k + tax and licensing. Some I heard got their RSX Type S in Acura of Pleasanton and in Autowest Acura of Stevens Creek in Santa Clara. I do have to warn you not to go to Acura of Serramonte. I've been hearing bad reviews about this dealership and my friend had a very bad experience with them as well.
About Mike Harvey Acura, I don't believe I got ripped off. Dealerships also need to make money and it's just natural for them to add $500 to a $1000 to the car's MSRP. I'm happy with my RSX Type S with no problems like most people complain about. This makes me think that I got a better deal compared to other people who payed up to $2000 less but have to make so many trips back to the dealership because of problems. I test drove the Nighthawk Black and I couldn't resist taking the car since I liked it so much and that it was the last 05 RSX Type S that they have during that period (but more were on scheduled to come a week later), it was last August.
I'm not so sure about Acura of Pleasanton, but I've read one posting on Yahoo autos forum about bad service. This person had a problem with his RSX's transmission and the dealer just kept on denying the problem. I just don't like the sound of dealerships like that.
My friend got his at Autowest Acura of Stevens Creek. He said they have a lot in stock when he got his. He received good service and never had any problems with his car as well.
I still believe buying a car is also like gambling. You wouldn't know if you're about to get a lemon or not. Just test drive it, get the feel of it, and pay close attention to those sales people because they can easily rip you off. You can tell from the beginning if they will help or not in case the car has a problem. Just make sure you won't get new car that's over a 100 miles. It's still new but I'd still worry about it.
I don't expect you to go to these dealerships I suggested. I still suggest that you make some research on the dealerships that you might plan to visit. Like I said, it's a gamble.
#216 of 375 Re: Looking to buy in San Francisco [robinsf]
Oct 11, 2005 (4:18 am)
I just went through the web process you mentioned when I purchased an '05 Civic. Most dealers will come down a few hundred from their initial offer, but that's about it. They realize that a typical internet shopper has already researched prices. The prices they gave me included any and all fees for an OTD price.
If you have a trade, make sure you research that also over in "Real world trade in values". And get pre-qualified for financing at your local bank before going to the dealer.
#217 of 375 Re: Looking to buy in San Francisco [joeluc13]
Oct 11, 2005 (4:22 am)
" Dealerships also need to make money and it's just natural for them to add $500 to a $1000 to the car's MSRP. I'm happy with my RSX Type S with no problems like most people complain about. This makes me think that I got a better deal compared to other people who payed up to $2000 less but have to make so many trips back to the dealership because of problems."
The price you pay for a vehicle has absolutely nothing to do with problems. And if you paid $2K more than what others have posted, then you should change your tactics.
#218 of 375 Re: Looking to buy in San Francisco [mikefm58]
Oct 11, 2005 (8:57 am)
I don't have to. I got mine just a few hundred $ more added to MSRP. I can live with that.
#219 of 375 Re: Looking to buy in San Francisco [robinsf]
Oct 11, 2005 (3:51 pm)
The 2006's have been out for over a month, and I don't believe there are any new 05's left anywhere.
Unless you want a Type S, the inventory on the 06's is low right now, at least in my area (Massachusetts). The TMV here is sticker price for the 06 Acura RSX's, but there is a special leasing deal right now.
#220 of 375 Re: Looking to buy in San Francisco [robinsf]
Oct 12, 2005 (3:08 pm)
My experience has been that they are fairly rigid once they have quoted you an internet price. They will sometimes give you a bit more for your trade than they otherwise would to seal the deal, but won't move on the price they are asking for the new car.
I had a good experience with Marin Acura when I got mine, which is almost two years ago now. They are a decent bunch of people, no rudeness, no sneaky tactics, which these days is the best you can expect from dealerships, it seems.
My sister leased her RSX from Concord Acura, and they were awful - bait and switch, sending no less than two different salespeople and two F&I guys into the negotiations, misleading her about leasing fees, and then putting her down when she asked them to clarify. Don't go there!
Oh, and if you get a quote on a 2006 when you were asking about a 2005, just reply to the e-mail and say thanks, but can you quote me on a 2005 model? They will tell you if they have any left. I think the above poster is correct, though, that most of the '05s are gone. It's going to be hard to get a lot off sticker right now on a 2006, as they have only been around for about a month (even if they really didn't change anything for the '06). The $22K you are being quoted sounds like MSRP for a base model with leather. Don't pay MSRP, this is an older model now and there are lots of nice cars in this price range. Of course, if you can manage to wait until winter, the deals always get much better then, as it is a slow period for car sales.
Oct 15, 2005 (3:19 pm)
I just leased an 06 RSX, base-manual-cloth, for the advertised lease deal. The deal itself bulit in a $750 discount off sticker, according to the Host on the Acura RSX forum, plus, I'm getting a TMV of MSRP on Edmund's for the 06's right now in my area. So, I just took it as is, and was excited to do so!
It seems like such an inexpensive car for the quality it is, I had no problem with it and didnt want to haggle to get $500 or so less. I paid 0 down on the cap, which made the payments 239/mo (250 w/tax), with $1400 up-front costs. The up front costs included the 1st payment and a $275 refundable security deposit, so it was really less than $900 down and $250 a month for this car - that's an awesome deal!
#222 of 375 2006 Base RSX w/leather
Oct 15, 2005 (9:18 pm)
Ft. Larderdale area. Just paid $400 over invoice. 06' Jade Green Metallic Base Model 5AT (wife) w/leather. Wheel locks & mud flaps. Was quoted $200 over, but when I got there the manager insisted on $400. Sales guy seemed new and eager and I knew it was the best deal in the area. Financing was a little higher than I expected. 60 mo.'s around 5.5%.
#223 of 375 Re: Looking to buy in San Francisco [nippononly]
Oct 21, 2005 (10:09 pm)
I have been reading all your feedback and opinions on the different dealerships in the Bay Area and am curious to know if you work for Acura .