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Here is the new place to discuss the Scion xB by revka
Jan 08, 2003 (8:06 am)
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"The xB starts at under $16,000, and will be available in California only starting this June; by June 2004, the vehicle will be available nationwide."

Read more from Edmunds' coverage of the 2003 LA Auto Show: 2004 Scion xB.


 
What do you think?
 
Revka
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by a_l_hubcaps
Jan 08, 2003 (10:12 am)
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I think it looks interesting, but I also think that Toyota needs to watch the price level carefully. Remember, this thing is really a rebodied Echo...it's not very big or very powerful. If it sells for $15-16K, people are going to have a hard time finding a reason to buy one in place of a Matrix or an Aerio. Base it at $13K, and they might have something.
 
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pricing, power, styling by jfr4
Jan 09, 2003 (11:28 am)
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The closest thing on the market is the Honda Element which starts out at $16,300 and boasts a 2.4 L 160 horsepower engine. Given this more powerful, though esthetically impaired, competitor, the bbX will have to be priced aggressively as the Element has beaten the bbX to market by some 7+ months and probably 40+ horsepower.
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by whatever_7
Jan 09, 2003 (6:48 pm)
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The element is alot bigger. This is some where between a Corolla and an Echo. I will give it that the cabin space is as big as a corolla. There is no way I will buy it for 16k. A 14k package should include the audio system. I will throw another grant in it for a DVD player/Navi system. They can keep the cruise control and other stuff.
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FJ concept by ropedart
Jan 11, 2003 (4:44 am)
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Yota should have been selling the FJ concept in the USA by now. It is more America suited being more outdoorsy vehicle. Japan you cruise the streets in a xB because there's nothing else to do. In America you can actually get out of town.
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Looks Like A Van? by joybell
Jan 11, 2003 (6:23 am)
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Well, to me it does. Also looks like it will do great in the 5mph bumber bash test.
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underpowered. by jfr4
Jan 13, 2003 (11:22 am)
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I would love to see the drag coefficient on cars like these. It seems they only publish such data on models with stellar numbers. Given its likely wind resistance, a 108 hp powertrain doesn't sound adequate.
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Scion xB by jchan2
Jan 16, 2003 (9:33 am)
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I'd buy this Scion. Just depends what equipment level we're looking at here. DVD TVs? Navigation system? What am I looking at with my 16K?
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I saw it in the Chicago auto show by r34
Feb 15, 2003 (5:01 pm)
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I looked at the Toyota Scion. I like it very much. It is very comfortable and very easy to go in and out the vehicle. I went to Japan last year andI think that's the vehicle I saw in the Toyota showroom there. However, I think they need to increase its horsepower. If they target Gen-Y, they may need to work on the appearance of the vehicle.
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Scion could be the next Daihatsu if they don't change by originalflavor
Feb 17, 2003 (3:31 pm)
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I applaud Toyota's effort's for trying to appeal to the younger generation, but I think that Scion isn't the answer. Last summer, I went to Japan and saw hundreds of these xBs (or bBs in Japan) roaming the streets with teens my age behind the wheel. I believe it was popular there because:
1. Japanese teens like that style (for some odd reason)
2. Japanese teens like to have cars that blast music, like we do in the US
3. In Japan, you normally go about 40-80 kph (20-40mph?, correct me if I am wrong). Therefore, lots of horsepower or aerodynamic designs aren't needed often.
 
But this is America! If we are law-obeying citizens, we go around 65mph, and we prefer to use our own cars to go offroad or to haul things around. I wouldn't want to drive a car that will leave me thinking, "Should I switch lanes in front of that 18-wheeler and risk being tomorrow's front page on a newspaper?" "Should I haul this TV with the possibility that I might have to push this thing home?""Is it smart to go offroad and risk coming back with no bumpers and an overheated engine?"
If Toyota really wants to sell a car like this without being laughed at by a 7-year old for a design he could make, they could at least offer a V6 as an option and knock down the prices by $2000.

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