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Mazda MAZDA6, Hatchback, Sedan, Wagon
#988 of 2415 Re: USED 2004 6s price? [mijfl]
Feb 19, 2005 (7:49 pm)
Why should every manufacturer care about resale value? Once you buy the car new, they have your money. Do you think they have absolute control over the resale value of their vehicles anyway? Demand has a lot to do with it, for example I'm sure a lot more people would like a used Accord than a used Mazda6 so the used Accord sells for more. What if the resale value were high, and you were buying instead of selling, would you be happy then? In that case maybe you'd be paying $5000 more! Really, if you didn't know that Mazdas don't have great resale value then you didn't do enough research before buying.
I don't know how you made money trading in a car, especially an Impala because they are all over the place and don't cost very much (like a Taurus). I would guess that not very many GM vehicles have better than average resale value. Unless you can get a new car deal which is way below invoice price, I just don't see how you can expect to make out very well trading in the first year or two, even if the vehicle has good resale value. Cars are simply poor investments, especially when you don't keep them for very long.
Furthermore, let's not get carried away with the complaints about the car itself, either:
- The traction control isn't the best I've seen, but shut the motor down? You're exaggerating. It doesn't shut the motor down.
- The radio in my car works quite well, and is better than any stock stereo I've had in a car (granted, most of them were GM/Ford).
- Do you really think Mazda cares if you can't get an aftermarket kit? They aren't selling 'em!
- If you didn't know that the Mazda engines usually produce most of their power at higher RPM's then again, you didn't do enough research before buying.
- No problems with my wheels, and they certainly don't seem cheap. At least they are painted alloys, which can be touched up without too much trouble. I've had polished/clearcoated alloys before, try fixing those once they get damaged!
- The metal looking panels do seem to scratch easily, but I don't see anything else cheap about the interior.
I'm sure you are upset about your car, but it doesn't mean Mazda sucks and that the Mazda6 is cheap. You can do a lot worse with your money.
At any rate, good luck with your sale.
#989 of 2415 Re: USED 2004 6s price? [escortowner]
Feb 20, 2005 (1:10 pm)
Escortowner, $18,000 OTD is excellent. Where (city, state)are you located to get that deal? What was the price without taxes? Do you have the tan cloth interior? If so, how do you like it
I've got stains where raindrops hit the seat in the few seconds that I had the door open. I'm waiting until spring and then using some Stanley Steamer upholstery cleaner and then apply Scotchgard. Anyone try this or have any recommendations on whether or not I should do this. Another option is aftermarket seat covers? Anyone have a wab site?
#990 of 2415 Re: USED 2004 6s price? [tweet651983]
Feb 21, 2005 (11:06 am)
I am in Houston Texas. I have the grey interior, with Glacier silver exterior. I havent' noticed any issues with my interior yet. I stayed away from the tan specifically. however, I was only looking at the silver one, and I haven't ever seen one with tan interior, so I dind't have to worry.
The sticker price on the car was just over $23,000.
Sad thing is I have only had the car for about a month and I already wish I would have gotten the one with more options on it. It would have been about $2,000 more, but I already put about $700 into a new stereo (which sounds much better than the Bose anyway) - but the BOSE would have been good enough for me.
Part of the way I was able to get a bit better deal was because that included a $500 college grad discount.
#991 of 2415 Re: USED 2004 6s price? [mijfl]
Feb 22, 2005 (6:52 pm)
I had to go out in the garage and make sure the car I bought a few months ago was the Mazda 6s.
Yep, it is, but it doesn't in any way resemble your description.
Mine has about 4,500 miles on it and has been flawless. The ride is unbelievably compliant and at the same time the handling is comparable to any front-drive sedan, and maybe not so far away from a couple of rear drives as well.
Taking issue with the interior quality is fair, but overall, to me, this car is the best midsize value on the market if you want a car that looks good and is fun to drive. I believe over time, as more people come to appreciate this car's assets, that its resale will improve a bit. Of course, the MZ6 will never equal the resale of an Accord or Camry, though.
On the bright side, if you managed to make money trading in an Impala, you should make a killing with a MZ6
#992 of 2415 Pricing For Mazda 6i Base
Feb 24, 2005 (2:08 pm)
I live in New York City and am about to purchase my first brand new car by the summer. After alot of looking and comparing, my heart is set on the 2005 Mazda 6i 4cyl Automatic. At first i opted for the Mazda 3s, but while getting a feel for it in the showroom, i had to put the drivers seat back way to far to be comfortable being that I am 6'-1" tall.
These are my suggested options for the 6i.
* Bose Audio Moonroof Package
* Convenience Package
* Automatic Transmission
* Door Edge Guards
* Fog Lights
* Rear Mud Guards
I've chosen Silver Metallic as the color.
I used the Mazda website to build the car and their MSRP is $23,580.
Kelley Blue Book invoice price is $21,017.
Kelley Blue Book new car price is $21,753.
So, I figure if I purchase i will be spending between 21G-22G, is that a good deal?
But upon further review The 2005 Honda Accord EX 4cyl automatic/no leather. Kelley Blue Book new car price is $21,758, only a five dollar difference.
Which is the better buy, truthful opinions please.
The Accord is a nice car, but very popular in NYC, i dont see too many Mazda 6 on the road. Like I said earlier my heart is really set on the Mazda, but who knows the newly designed 2006 Jetta due to come out next month may add to my choices. Help please!
#993 of 2415 Re: Pricing For Mazda 6i Base [newmazda4me]
Feb 25, 2005 (12:44 am)
you are looking at all the cars I looked at and here is what I found....I started toward the Honda Accord and I was head on with it and decided the reliability isn't worth how UGLY the car is from the front end.
I had a Jetta and loved how it drove and felt, but the rough ride compared to the MZ6, and the issues with the long term performance caused me to trade it in before I had any problems - plus I love the MZ6.
I haven't heard too many good things about the looks of the 2006 Jetta, so I don't know about that one...but it is mostly a preference thing.
As far as the MZ6 is concerned, since you want an AUTO, I would say definitely go for the 2005. Apparently the 6 speed makes all the difference.
If you were in for a stick, I wold say try to get your hands on an 04 manual - they are dirt cheap right now, and you could likely get one with the v6 for about the same price - if not less.
I testdrove both, and I couldn't handle the lack of power from the 4 cylendar. So, if you are set on the 4 cyl. don't drive the v6 - you will like it too much .
What I can say about the Jetta, the interior materials are nicer than the MZ6, and the paint job is one of the best I have seen from a durability standpoint.
I say, stick with the 6 and have fun with it - with all the packages you are getting it will be nice.
#994 of 2415 Re: USED 2004 6s price? [mijfl]
Feb 25, 2005 (9:28 am)
You say you paid $21.5K but don't mention your msrp. You also don't give your mileage. With the current new car market and in this price range, $16K trade-in is not that bad for a year old car. You do realize the dealer wants to make some profit reselling your trade I hope. If you didn't understand how rebates effect resale value you should have done more research. Maybe you're mad at yourself for paying too much for the Mazda. I also smell B.S. on your other trade unless you had an Impala SS. I've never seen a Chevy gain value unless it's a classic Vette or muscle car.
I am very happy with mine so far. No expenses other than routine maintenance. The fake metal parts scratch easily but other than that I think the interior is very good and my radio works just fine. Maybe interference in the area where you drive?
99.9% of the time a car is a depreciating asset. To think you will make money or break even on one is just plain foolishness.
#995 of 2415 Re: Pricing For Mazda 6i Base [newmazda4me]
Feb 25, 2005 (11:38 am)
Personally, I think that the Mazda6 is a lot of car for low 20's and many people are getting them for less than 20K. When I shopped V6 sedans recently the Mazda6 seemed to have more for the money than Accord, Altima, or Legacy which I also considered. On the Internet the prices looked close, but the dealer quotes were a whole different story. Since the Accord is very popular in your area you may be able to get a much better deal on the less popular Mazda.
Did you drive both? I didn't drive the I4 models, but when comparing the V6 equipped models, I found the Accord provides a rather bland driving experience compared to the Mazda6.
I also think that the Mazda6 is much more attractive than the Accord. In my opinion the last generation Accord looked ok, but this new one just strikes me as odd looking.
If reliability and resale value are high priority for you, the Accord may have the edge but otherwise I just don't see a huge reason to choose it over the Mazda6 unless you are loyal to Honda or want to drive something lots of other people have.
#996 of 2415 Re: Pricing For Mazda 6i Base [newmazda4me]
Feb 25, 2005 (5:22 pm)
If I was buying a 4-cylinder, I'd go for the Accord every time. Its 4-banger blows away the Mazda's in every area: HP, torque, smoothness and fuel efficiency.
Also, the Accord's resale is much better than the Mazda. It doesn't look as good or handle as well, but the Accord is the better 4-cylinder, especially for the same money.
Now, the 6-cylinder comparison is a different story all together. The Honda 6 is still better than Mazda's, but the Mazda 6-cylinder is pretty good.
If you're in no rush, wait on the '06 Jetta. It looks sweet, but it's going to be pricey. You can probably get a pretty well-equipped 6s for what the new Jetta will cost you.
#997 of 2415 Used Prices for 6 and 3
Mar 01, 2005 (9:12 pm)
After reading the last few posts I'm wondering about the prices I'm seeing here (Dallas/Ft Worth) for the 6 and 3. All the used ones are the "i". Most seem fairly basic - not a lot of fancy add ons, a couple have power seats or the extra body molding around the bottom. The asking prices seem to be between 15,000 - 18,000 with a few around 14,000. Funny thing is, they're asking well below the blue book value, so I'm wondering how much negotiating room I might have should I decide to buy one (there doesnt seem to be a lot of price diff between the two). I figure if the asking price is, on average, 16 or 17k, perhaps I could get down between 14 and 15? I dont know. Keep in mind this is the first time I will be buying a car through a dealer. So I'm still doing a LOT of research and trying to do my homework carefully....