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Mazda MAZDA6, Hatchback, Sedan, Wagon
#2345 of 2382 Re: 2012 Mazda6 s GT for $10k off.... [pegasus17]
Jan 31, 2013 (10:28 am)
You have to add TTL with any car be it used, two year old new or brand new model so it's really not a factor except that he would be paying taxes on a lot less of a sale price. Mazda gen 1 didn't do bad when the gen 2 came out regards to holding value. I have a gen 1 and the value is not bad at all considering what I paid for it. A 2014 will depreciate $5000 as soon as you drive it home and you will be paying TTL on a lot higher price. If a car is kept for a long time that $10 grand off purchase price will be huge. IMO it's a great deal. Could he MAYBE get a few extra hundred with some work, possibly. But to walk in and get the $10k off with no hassle is a very good deal. Especially if that is exactly the car that someone wants in the first place.
#2346 of 2382 Re: 2012 Mazda6 s GT for $10k off.... [pegasus17]
Jan 31, 2013 (12:19 pm)
If I buy the 2012 s GT, I plan to keep it for at least five years. At that point, depreciation isn't a major factor. I will only be financing $12-$15k for no more than 48 months, so negative equity will never be an issue.
I plan to make a down of payment of $11k-$14k, depending on whether or not I accept a very generous offer from my mom and step-dad. Instead of trading-in my 2006 Mazda3, I am giving it to my nephew who gets his learner's permit in a few months. I struggled with the idea of "giving" a teenager a free car...but I'm giving it to with several requirements (or "strings" if you prefer)-
He must maintain at least a "B" average overall until graduation.
He must pay for his own insurance, gas and scheduled maintenance.
If he has an at-fault accident or gets ticketed for a moving violation prior to his 18th birthday, he loses the car until he turns 18.
Considering the fact that he's in Advanced Placement and has an A+ in all classes, the grade requirement is a non-issue. Since he won't have a car payment, requiring him to pay for the vehicle's operating expenses (insurance, maintenance, gas) is more than reasonable and will teach him discipline and responsibility.
I debated whether I should also make him pay for wear-and-tear items- tires, brakes, etc. But I couldn't live with myself if he ended up having an accident because he was driving on slick tires or bad brakes...I told his parents (my sister and bro-in-law) that we'll deal with those expenses as they arise...translation= Uncle Jason (me) will pay for them...although my parents have committed to paying half of any expenses that I end up covering.
My parents are also insisting on paying me for at least half the value of the car. It's worth over $7k, so they want to give me $3500 toward the value. I have $10k ear-marked for my down payment, but I'll put down $13,500 if I take the money from the folks....
At the quoted price of $24,495, my OTD total would be $26,030. I would only need to finance $12,500.
I just decided to send the dealer an email making an offer of $23,500 for the 2012. Actually, I offered $24,975 OTD which is $23,500 plus 6% sales tax and $66 for tag and title fees. For some reason, car dealers aren't very good at math...they might accept an offer of $23,500 for a car, but the OTD price ends up $1000 more than when I calculate it! =/
#2347 of 2382 Re: 2012 Mazda6 s GT for $10k off.... [igozoomzoom]
Jan 31, 2013 (12:40 pm)
I hope they accept or at least make a compromise offer slightly lower than your original quote. Given you expect to keep the car for 5 years, the deal sounds better than i first thought. Make sure the V-6 doesn't require premium gas (I'm not sure). I'm sure you know this but you can "give" the kid the car tax-free as long as the value is less than 13k. Today being the last day of the month might sway them to deal a bit more. Good luck and enjoy...
#2348 of 2382 Re: Test Drive [pegasus17]
Jan 31, 2013 (1:16 pm)
I have looked at KIA but I have reservations. The better half drives a 2011 Sonata turbo (somewhat shared platform/same motors etc) and it has been back to the dealership for many issues. Front end pull (FINALLY replaced both struts) paint chipping off (partially re-painted) and numerous other gripes. The Optima has no spare tire and read numerous owners not getting the advertised MPG and paint issues. That being said I am passing on the Korean cars.
#2349 of 2382 Re: Test Drive [tundradweller1]
Jan 31, 2013 (1:32 pm)
I am surprised by the amount of issues you've had with the 2011 Sonata Turbo. i knew about the front end pull issue from the hyundai forum. But paint and numerous other gripes are not good. i drive a 2011 Sonata GLS (mfg: March 2010) with only 18k miles and my lease ends in 2 months. If i can't find a deal on a similar mid-size sedan, I am considering keeping the Sonata for another year or two (5 year warranty on most major items). Can you expound on your other gripes - i am curious?
FWIW, I sat in a 2014 mazda 6 yesterday and was very impressed. The only thing that sux is you can only get a manual driver seat in the lower-end Sport model. It did have height adjustment but it wasn't easy to pump.
#2350 of 2382 It is amazing how much can change in less than a day!
Feb 01, 2013 (10:00 pm)
It’s amazing how much things can change in just one day!
I emailed the Internet Sales Rep yesterday around 11am and made an lower offer than their ‘sale’ price. Their price was $24,495 ($24,995 actually, but since I currently own a 2006 Mazda3, I get the $500 Loyalty Incentive. My offer was for $23,500 and I was hoping they’d counter with $24,000, which would have acceptable to me….
I didn’t hear back all afternoon and I put it on the backburner. I had plans to meet two of my friends for an early dinner and met them around 6pm. I told them about my pending auto purchase plans and they wanted to see the car. So we cut dinner short and set out for the 30-minute drive into the abyss of South Atlanta!
I pointed them in the direction of the car and went into the showroom to seer if the my sales rep was still there. He was already gone for the day, so I asked to speak to the Sales Manager. Eventually, this morbidly obese, unshaven blob of a man slowly wobbled in my direction. It was 8pm on a Thursday, but that was still no excuse for his hideous, wrinkled “dress” shirt to be partially untucked from his equally hideous polyester slacks. His physical appearance and the miserable expression on his face made me start to wonder if this was the sort of dealer I wanted to do business with….
Over the next five minutes or so, he was incredibly rude and told me the $24,495 was a take-it or leave-it price!!! I pointed out, in a sarcastic tone that was completely appropriate considering how PISSED OFF I was! If the brief moment of blurred vision, tightness in my chest and shortness of breath were any indication, my blood pressure had to be well into stroke/aneurism territory thanks to that nasty little troll of a man. I tried to avoid swearing, because screaming profanity and making a scene in public makes you look like trailer trash, no matter how justified you are…but as I walked away and kicked the glass door open hard enough to make it slam against the glass window and almost break, he made some sort of loud and rude comment, so I made him a couple of one-finger hand-puppets, if you know what I mean!
We got back into the car to leave and, as I buckled up and the headlights came on, I noticed Krispy Kreme (the troll) standing in the window right in front of me! For a split-second, I thought about creating a drive-thru for their showroom…but I was driving my mom’s new Mazda CX-9 and hitting him would likely total it,……what a jerk, though…and he isn’t off the hook, but I want my new car first.;……
Part 2 of the saga will be posted below very shortly!
#2351 of 2382 Re: It is amazing how much can change in less than a day! [igozoomzoom]
Feb 03, 2013 (12:50 am)
Friday morning, I took my mom’s CX-9 to the dealership where she bought it for a warranty repair (gasket protruding from side of headlight assembly, minor cosmetic issue) and to have the pinstriping re-done on the rear quarter panel. It was also time for her first oil change and they owed us a final detailing because it didn’t get one the night we bought it because it was so late.
I really like their Internet Sales Manager and he was coordinating a loaner car for me since it would take 6-7 hours to; finish her car. I called him when I was about 30 minutes away and he told me they had three loaners to choose from- a bright green Mazda2, a baby blue Mazda2 or a silver Mazda5. I chuckled and, after a moment of silence, told him I was waiting for the punch line….but it wasn’t a joke! Since I’m probably bigger than a Mazda2, I told him I’d take the Mazda5 if that was the only other choice.
Then I started telling him about my experience with the jerk from the night before. He asked me why I hadn’t contacted him about buying a Mazda6. I told him that I checked out his inventory and it was almost all 'i' Sport models and a handful of Touring and Touring Plus, but no s Grand Touring. He told me he would start trying to locate one for me and see if he could do a dealer trade, then he’d let me know and quote a price. I wasn’t holding my breath, but told him to go for it.
Since I was shopping for a Mazda6, he pulled a 2013 Mazda6 'i' Touring Plus from inventory to use as my loaner for the day. It was Autumn Bronze, the last color I’d choose, but beggars can’t be choosers.
After I had spent a few hours with the car, I started thinking that the 2.5L/5AT was more than adequate and was much more practical than the 3.7L V6 in the ‘s’ model. So I called my guy and asked him to start looking for an 'i' Grand Touring w/ Technology Package instead. He called me back barely an hour later and had found one in Fireglow Red (my first choice, which I wasn’t going to get in an s model) with Beige interior. It was located in Jacksonville, Florida which is about six hours away from Atlanta. The sticker price was $30,530 and he could sell it to me for $23,656 plus TTT ($25,141 OTD).
I told him I’d take it and would put a deposit down on it when I returned that evening to pick up my mom’s CX-9 and return the loaner. When I returned around 7pm, he told me that all was well with the trade except it would be late next week before the car would arrive due to logistics and the distance involved. He also said there would be a cost to cover the expense of the trade, probably around $400. I wasn’t thrilled with the wait, but understood the expense of paying someone to drive round-trip and fueling the cars.
I called him back this morning and told him I would drive down there and make the swap on Monday. He checked with his boss and he had no problem with it. So I’m picking up the car to drive down tomorrow afternoon and leaving around 5am on Monday morning and I’ll be driving my brand new 2013 Mazda6 'i' Grand Touring back home!!! They said I could wait until Tuesday evening, after work, to come back and finalize all the paperwork to actually purchase the car.
I didn’t realize this until yesterday, but the 2013 'i' Touring Plus and 'i' Grand Touring have the 18” wheels that were previously used only on the ‘s’ Grand Touring! It makes a big difference in the car’s appearance, especially from the side view. The only tip-off that it’s not an ‘s’ model is the tailpipe. But I can live without the cool looking dual exhaust to save a few thousand bucks and get another 3-4mpg!!!
I’m very excited, especially since I had given up on getting one in Fireglow Red and it was my first color choice by far! So, I'm paying $23,656 for a car with a sticker price of $30,530- a discount of $6,854. I think it's a SWEET deal....what do you guys think???
#2352 of 2382 superlative Mazda 6 build.
Feb 03, 2013 (8:08 am)
That is a super low price for an absolutely great car.
! paid over 30,000 dollars fro my 2010 Mazda GTi in fire red with beige leather interior.
A stunningly good looking car that is now over 3 years old with 36,000 miles on it.
I drove it to Calif from Dallas, and overall mileage was above 32 mpg,,,and I drove fast.
What a safe road car it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The 2.5 litre 4 cyl motor has PLENTY of power,,,, and my gas mileage was above 32 mpg.
I use the MAZDA customer website to log in all my oil changes, tire rotations, etc.
Never had to do anything to the car, but required maintenance and tire rotation.
You will have the same with yours.
#2353 of 2382 Lease payments on 2014 Mazda 6 GT
Feb 03, 2013 (9:29 am)
I have been waiting for a red 2014 Mazda 6 Grand Touring to get to the dealership here for almost a month now. They finally got one in yesterday so I went to make a deal on it. I am a Mazda girl through & through and love the car. My problem now is that the payment on the lease seems ridiculously high compared to my past Mazda 6 leases. The one they got in is almost the highest price you can get--$32140--in this area (Utah) because of the forward cruise control thing and factory paint shield. They are willing to give me about $1000 off MSRP which is supposedly a big discount for this new car right now. The residual is suppose to be 61% but they are still quoting me a payment of almost $500 for a 3 year lease and $450 range for 4 year with only 10k miles/yr (52% residual). What the heck?! The price is almost exactly what I paid when I leased my 2009 Mazda 6. My payment on that for a 3 year/15000 mi lease was only $378/mo. Any ideas on why this might be? Am I being hit with extra fees that I'm not aware of?? Any help would be appreciated!
#2354 of 2382 Re: Lease payments on 2014 Mazda 6 GT [somber1girl]
Feb 03, 2013 (10:04 am)
It'a probably a little bit of everything. Price, fees, terms. Ask for a breakdown of the costs that include the following:
msrp, sell price, money factor, residual %, acq fee (595), doc fee (completely optional in Utah), tax rate on leases. Then wait for a response from one of us geeks or use this easy online lease calculator:
Do not jump on a BAD deal just because you love this new car! As many have said, a car is just a commodity. tons of them out there...