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Mazda MAZDA6, Hatchback, Sedan, Wagon
#2339 of 2415 2012 Mazda6 s GT for $10k off....
Jan 30, 2013 (12:24 pm)
íve found a dealer here in the metro Atlanta area who has two NEW 2012 Mazda6 s Grand Touring models for almost $10,000 off sticker price. Both have the Technology Package and Navigation System, both have Black Leather interior, the only difference is color- one Silver and the other is Black. Sticker on both is $34,390 and I could buy for $24,495 plus sales tax and $66 in tag/title fees.
Iím not interested in the Black, but Silver would actually be my second choice of all the colors offered. My favorite is the Fireglow Red, but at this stage in the game and at these prices, Iím fine with my Silver.
2013 s Grand Touring models are few and far between. I found one located about 300 miles away. It is Silver with the Technology Package but doesnít have Navigation (not a deal breaker). It stickers for $32,570 and I could get it for $25,126 plus TTT.
If they were both local, I probably would go for the 2013 model. But it doesnít seem worth it to travel 600 miles round-trip, pay $600+ more AND lose the NAVÖright???
I have wanted a new Mazda6 since I test drove one of the new 2009 models shortly after they were released. My 2006 Mazda3 (which I still have) was having some minor warranty work and I had a few hours to kill, so they gave me the keys to a Kona Blue 2009 Mazda6 s Touring! I remember whimpering when I had to give the keys back and buying a new car at that particular time wasnít realistic for me.
My only regret is that they discontinued Kona Blue after the 2010 model year! =( The color palette of the 2011-2013 models doesnít do much for me. The Autumn Bronze and Steel Blue donít seem to ďfitĒ the carís design, IMO. I think the old Performance White looked better than the White Platinum Pearl; Polished Slate is too dark for my taste and I could never own a Black car because Iíd go insane trying to keep it clean! That leaves Ingot Silver and Fireglow Red, which are the two that I like. Fireglow Red sells like hotcakes and I can understand why! Even the 'i' Sport looks like million bucks in RedÖ
In my search, I've found three dealerships that offer hefty discounts AND they list the discounted prices on their websites, instead of making you call to get a 'sale' price-
MedCenter Mazda- Pelham (Birmingham), AL
Cory Fairbanks Mazda- Longwood (Orlando), FL
Russel Mazda- Baltimore, MD
#2340 of 2415 Re: 2012 Mazda6 s GT for $10k off.... [igozoomzoom]
Jan 30, 2013 (1:07 pm)
Understand that you are buying a 2 year old model (the 2014 is out) and that the depreciation is at least 30% especially on a high end model. While 10k off sticker seems like a deal, it is barely adequate for all the risk you are taking. I searched on cars dot com for a used 2012 s grand touring (all over the US). Found only 14 for sale with a wide price range from 22k to 29k. I'd shoot for a little more off (say 24k max) especially since it's the end of the month. Good luck...
#2341 of 2415 Re: 2012 Mazda6 s GT for $10k off.... [pegasus17]
Jan 30, 2013 (3:21 pm)
I think he understands he is buying a car that is two model years old and that is why they are taking 10 grand off the price. So you are saying that you have found USED 2012 Mazda6s GTs and some were asking $29000 and some were as low as $22000 and we don't even know if they had all the packages he is getting. So to say that $24,495 for a BRAND NEW one with the manufacturers 3 year bumper-to-bumper and 60k powertrain warranty isn't worth a little more is ridiculous. Sure, he can try to get a few bucks more off but that deal is already fantastic if that is the kind of car he wants. It's hardly "barely adequate".
Just what kind of risk are you referring to if the dealer has already taken the depreciation hit and he drives off in a car with 0 miles on it with all the new car warranties intact?
#2342 of 2415 Re: 2012 Mazda6 s GT for $10k off.... [m6user]
Jan 31, 2013 (6:26 am)
Ridiculous, hardly. My opinion - yes. Consider that 24.5 plus TTL will probably be closer to 26.5k otd. The risk is that the older model (gen 2) will not hold its value well now that that gen3 model (2014) is out and the price on it is very competitive. I was at my local dealer yesterday and looked at both the 2013 and 2014 models. I sat in the 2013 s grand touring (33k) on the showroom floor while the 2014 Sport (23.3k) was retrieved from the back lot. I admit that the s grand touring is STILL a lot of car for the money. Would i buy that 2 year old model - no. Someone else might, but they should know what they are getting in to. The 2013 is going for 5-6k off sticker now. Next month, who knows.
Jan 31, 2013 (8:47 am)
Tested the 2014 Mazda 6 Sport AT. Very impressed with the performance for a 4 cyl. with almost the torque of a V-6. Handling rocked (of course). Ride was not bad considering the feedback, would stay with the 17" tires. Above average wind noise on the freeway (it was very windy) and the sight lines were not great, including the mirrors. Really like the touch screen/HD radio, far better than the Ford Touch. Still a top if not the best contender in this segment. Rock on Mazda.
Just drove the 2013 Accord LX 4 cyl. Pleasantly surprised at the handling. Motor was decent but not as responsive as the 6's 2.5, CVT was a little weird but far better than the Altima 2.5. Quieter than the Mazda but still looks like a grocery getter.
I won't touch a Fusion with all the early transmission issues and Ford's reluctance to fix them.
Passat, under powered and worse MPG. Needs update to keep up.
#2344 of 2415 Re: Test Drive [tundradweller1]
Jan 31, 2013 (9:06 am)
I am in a similar situation. Too many choices; lease up in 2 months. Have you considered the Kia Optima LX with Convenience PLUS pkg (msrp 23.3k). good incentives and discounts can be had.
#2345 of 2415 Re: 2012 Mazda6 s GT for $10k off.... [pegasus17]
Jan 31, 2013 (9:28 am)
You have to add TTL with any car be it used, two year old new or brand new model so it's really not a factor except that he would be paying taxes on a lot less of a sale price. Mazda gen 1 didn't do bad when the gen 2 came out regards to holding value. I have a gen 1 and the value is not bad at all considering what I paid for it. A 2014 will depreciate $5000 as soon as you drive it home and you will be paying TTL on a lot higher price. If a car is kept for a long time that $10 grand off purchase price will be huge. IMO it's a great deal. Could he MAYBE get a few extra hundred with some work, possibly. But to walk in and get the $10k off with no hassle is a very good deal. Especially if that is exactly the car that someone wants in the first place.
#2346 of 2415 Re: 2012 Mazda6 s GT for $10k off.... [pegasus17]
Jan 31, 2013 (11:19 am)
If I buy the 2012 s GT, I plan to keep it for at least five years. At that point, depreciation isn't a major factor. I will only be financing $12-$15k for no more than 48 months, so negative equity will never be an issue.
I plan to make a down of payment of $11k-$14k, depending on whether or not I accept a very generous offer from my mom and step-dad. Instead of trading-in my 2006 Mazda3, I am giving it to my nephew who gets his learner's permit in a few months. I struggled with the idea of "giving" a teenager a free car...but I'm giving it to with several requirements (or "strings" if you prefer)-
He must maintain at least a "B" average overall until graduation.
He must pay for his own insurance, gas and scheduled maintenance.
If he has an at-fault accident or gets ticketed for a moving violation prior to his 18th birthday, he loses the car until he turns 18.
Considering the fact that he's in Advanced Placement and has an A+ in all classes, the grade requirement is a non-issue. Since he won't have a car payment, requiring him to pay for the vehicle's operating expenses (insurance, maintenance, gas) is more than reasonable and will teach him discipline and responsibility.
I debated whether I should also make him pay for wear-and-tear items- tires, brakes, etc. But I couldn't live with myself if he ended up having an accident because he was driving on slick tires or bad brakes...I told his parents (my sister and bro-in-law) that we'll deal with those expenses as they arise...translation= Uncle Jason (me) will pay for them...although my parents have committed to paying half of any expenses that I end up covering.
My parents are also insisting on paying me for at least half the value of the car. It's worth over $7k, so they want to give me $3500 toward the value. I have $10k ear-marked for my down payment, but I'll put down $13,500 if I take the money from the folks....
At the quoted price of $24,495, my OTD total would be $26,030. I would only need to finance $12,500.
I just decided to send the dealer an email making an offer of $23,500 for the 2012. Actually, I offered $24,975 OTD which is $23,500 plus 6% sales tax and $66 for tag and title fees. For some reason, car dealers aren't very good at math...they might accept an offer of $23,500 for a car, but the OTD price ends up $1000 more than when I calculate it! =/
#2347 of 2415 Re: 2012 Mazda6 s GT for $10k off.... [igozoomzoom]
Jan 31, 2013 (11:40 am)
I hope they accept or at least make a compromise offer slightly lower than your original quote. Given you expect to keep the car for 5 years, the deal sounds better than i first thought. Make sure the V-6 doesn't require premium gas (I'm not sure). I'm sure you know this but you can "give" the kid the car tax-free as long as the value is less than 13k. Today being the last day of the month might sway them to deal a bit more. Good luck and enjoy...
#2348 of 2415 Re: Test Drive [pegasus17]
Jan 31, 2013 (12:16 pm)
I have looked at KIA but I have reservations. The better half drives a 2011 Sonata turbo (somewhat shared platform/same motors etc) and it has been back to the dealership for many issues. Front end pull (FINALLY replaced both struts) paint chipping off (partially re-painted) and numerous other gripes. The Optima has no spare tire and read numerous owners not getting the advertised MPG and paint issues. That being said I am passing on the Korean cars.