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#2198 of 2382 Re: opinions please! [hlfan32]
by igozoomzoom
Dec 14, 2010 (2:53 am)
If your 2009 Camry Hybrid is leased, how do you intend to use it as a trade-in? Technically, you don't own the car and have no equity in the vehicle.
As for the best price on a 2010 Mazda6 i Touring Plus, the best deal varies somewhat depending on your geographic location. In the Southeast, a good deal with the Rear Spoiler is around $19,600 (sticker price of $25,075). On the West Coast (L.A. area), it can be had for around $18,300 or a little less (according to TrueCar.com).
The car you specify has two aftermarket features- Heated Seats and Rear DVD System. The pricing for those is a bit on the high side, in my opinion...especially the DVD system. I would double check the installation, function and warranty of both items before discussing anything else! If they were genuine Mazda accessories, I wouldn't be nearly as apprehensive...but aftermarket accessories like these can be a headache. They can even interfere with the factory warranty and add little if anything to resale value (or even hurt resale value if they aren't functioning properly). Just beware...
Dec 14, 2010 (5:04 am)
Thanks to igozoomzoom for your reply.
Sorry I didn't post my location previously. I'm in a Philadelphia suburb, so Northeast.
As far as the Camry, I just figured that a car that only has 13500 miles on it would be desirable to any Mazda dealership so they could resell it but yes that is assuming they want to buy it from Toyota first.
As far as the initial offer I got, I called a few different Mazda dealers and both offers beat the original offer. Best out the door price I got was $23,239.44.
You are right about the DVD system, I was thinking of getting it for my 3 year old on long trips, but I might decide against it.
I can't wait to talk to the original salesman because I'm a returning customer and he still didn't give me a good deal from the beginning.
Dec 17, 2010 (4:38 pm)
MSRP: 22,900
My offer: 18,000 + tax (1,120) + DMV fees = $19,220 out the door
#2201 of 2382 Waiting for 2011 later this year
by emerthor
Jan 04, 2011 (5:21 pm)
Could have bought an I Touring for 17900 + ttl, but after seeing the small tweaks to the 2011, especially, the non-striped seats, I'm going to wait till later this year.
#2202 of 2382 Re: Waiting for 2011 later this year [emerthor]
by igozoomzoom
Jan 04, 2011 (11:48 pm)
Could have bought an I Touring for 17900 + ttl, but after seeing the small tweaks to the 2011, especially, the non-striped seats, I'm going to wait till later this year.
Have you actually seen the new seat fabric in any photos or even in person? I'd be interested to hear a description and opinion on it compared to what was in the 2010.
I was very tempted by several too good to be true deals that were actually legit- in mid-December I found a new 2010 Mazda6 i Touring PLUS 4-door for $19,999 and I would get another $500 off for the Mazda Loyalty Reward, so it would have been $19,499! That is more than $5100 off MSRP! It was even my favorite color- Kona Blue! But the deal breaker was when I discovered that it had GRAY interior rather than BLACK! =( I'm still sick over that one....I don't care for Gray interiors as a general rule, but the there is something about the Gray Mazda6 interior that I especially despise!!! Thank God, Mazda finally dropped it for the 2011 models- Kona Blue, Ingot Silver and Comet Gray models have BLACK interior standard; Sangria Red, Techno White Pearl, Ebony Black and Black Cherry are available with a choice of BLACK or BEIGE...but GRAY is GONE!!! woo hoo!
The 17" wheel design on the 2009-2010 models were the only design element that never grew on me...I still think they look strange and detract from the car's gorgeous shape! It's amazing how much different the s Grand Touring looks with its sexy 18" wheels. It's a shame that they don't offer those 18-inchers as an option/upgrade on a few other trim levels. In Canada, the GT I-4 and GT V6 both get the 18" wheels...the i Grand Touring should at least offer them, IMO.
Anyway, the new-for-2011 17" wheel design does wonders for the car! It's amazing how much better the car looks with just a new style of wheel and restyled headlights and fog lights! I'm really pulling for Mazda to increase the sales of the MZ6 in the next year. They only sold 35,662 examples of the Mazda6 in 2010; barely topping the 2009 sales figure of 34,866. Both represent a massive drop from the 2008 total of 52,590, but 2008 was the final year of the 1st generation MZ6.
The Toyota Camry sold 327,804 units in 2010...almost 10 times the number of Mazda6 sold....what a sad world we live in...
#2203 of 2382 Re: Waiting for 2011 later this year [igozoomzoom]
by emerthor
Jan 05, 2011 (10:49 am)
Yes, I saw them side by side at the lot. Stepping back, I MUCH PREFERRED the 2011. I totally agree with you on the wheels, headlights, and fogs. I was willing to live with striped seats on the 10 because I liked the car so much. Pleasantly surprised to see stripeless and what seemed to be somewhat better material.
In short, I liked every single difference I noticed in the 2011. Kudos to Mazda as they really seem to be on top of their game with the 6! I'm ready to pounce on a black/black when the price is right. There was no way I could buy the 2010 after seeing the 2011 side by side. Looking forward to a great deal later this year. Like you, I hope people begin to recognize the 6 much more.
#2204 of 2382 Re: Waiting for 2011 later this year [igozoomzoom]
by jeffyscott
Jan 05, 2011 (12:27 pm)
If your sales figures are correct, it looks like Mazda failed with this redesign. The 2008 Camry sales were 436,617, so 2010 was down 25%, while the Mazda6 is down 32% from their 2008 sales.
#2205 of 2382 Re: Waiting for 2011 later this year [jeffyscott]
by emerthor
Jan 05, 2011 (1:04 pm)
The redesign is NOT a fail. Mazda is failing in their ad/marketing campaign.
#2206 of 2382 Re: Waiting for 2011 later this year [emerthor]
by mz6greyghost
Jan 05, 2011 (7:28 pm)
The redesign is NOT a fail. Mazda is failing in their ad/marketing campaign.
... Or a lack of one, in this case.
I've lost count of the amount of people that ask what model of Audi or Acura that I drive, only to be blown away that it's "only" a Mazda6! If Mazda spent only 10% of the $$$$ that Toyota dumps into Camry commercials, you'd be seeing one on every block, and Mazda having trouble keeping them on dealer lots.
#2207 of 2382 How about some facts?
by jeffyscott
Jan 06, 2011 (7:22 am)
Do you guys have anything to back up your claims that the car is a failure due to marketing?
I think it is a failure because they tried a "me too" strategy, creating a car that is more similar to the competition than the version it replaced. This (unsurprisingly, IMO) did not work.
From the time when it was new, here is a story that mentions this "me too" strategy:
Mazda marketing types feel confident the new Mazda6 will appeal to a broader and even more upscale buyer base when sales begin in August. A key part of their goal to push North American volumes into the six-figure zone involves winning converts from the ranks of Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Nissan Altima, and Chevy Malibu owners.
Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0808_2009_mazda6_drive/specificat- ions.html#ixzz1AGTkK46p
Here is another that indicates they were increasing the marketing budget...Mazda also said today that it will boost its marketing budget.
http://www.autospies.com/news/Mazda6-will-be-unveiled-in-April-hybrid-is-not-on-- the-agenda-yet-26646/