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2089 messages, Last post on Dec 05, 2009 at 6:01 PM
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It's also a bit annoying also. And confusing for the average car buyer...like myself. I usually know what I want to buy, know what my target price will be & know what I could live with paying wise. Since we never have ever financed a car, don't need to worry about a payment. If I ever did catch 0% financing, that would be a different story and I'd finance a good chunk and save the capital for investment oppurtunities. Obviously the poster who's doing all this research is a smarter and more sophisticated person than myself and he understands what he's trying to get across...most of us just don't see it and it seems rather pointless to us. To eqach his own I guess. But really, how many people really take in the 1st years depreciation into the variables of their new car purchase anyhow. Don't mean to rain on your parade about these calculations you like so much, but you make it more complicating thatn it needs to be and there's so much other stuff to mentally deal with that this kind of analysis seems silly. The Sandman  ( Not To Bright Or Sophisticated)
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Replying to: djhalptert (Feb 17, 2009 1:10 pm) On the Mazda6, the specific comment that seems to have started the controversy was: $3000 off a 22000 base mazda6 wouldn't seem that appealing to me at $19000. I believe the 20000msrp 09 mazda5 is barely worth 13000 in 12 months. $4000 or so off msrp is appropriate here, and your targets (price or price + financing.) Invoice minus rebate is probably $2500-3000 off and then Mazda is offering 0% on top of that, which is worth maybe $1500-2000. So $4000 off would seem to be pretty reasonable, if you don't take the financing. Or if the financing is worth it to you, just take that and $2500-3000 off (which has a true value of $4000 or more off, due to the savings on interest).
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Here are the quotes I got: Honda Civic EX: $18,398 Mazda 6 i touring: $19,450+$1250(sunroof)=20,650 ( I like sunroof) What would you choose based on the performance of the cars and their prices? Thanks.
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Replying to: stemeels (Feb 18, 2009 10:47 am) |
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Feb 18, 2009 8:10 am) Some of the cars mentioned have trade in values of 7-10k off msrp 12 or so months after purchase. No one said you should get 10000 off msrp all of them. However, getting 4000 off a vehicle worth 10000 from msrp in 12 months is nothing to write home about during normal times, much less the worst sales environment in 25 years. $10000 off msrp for the Chevy Impala (11000 used 08, 24000msrp 09) is nothing to get excited about, especially with the GM situation. (anybody gonna argue that?) Almost all common production autos depreciate about the same % every year after the 1st 12 months. The big hit is how unrealistic the MSRP is. A very good deal for about 95 % of production cars is about 15% (end of model clearance Aug-Sept) to 25% more than the trade in value of the previous year. This was during good times. 20% over the trade in of a 08 M6 is about 16500. The 09 did change from 08 so we'll call the trade in 13500 instead of 12000. $16500 would be a good deal mid year during good times, now we have the worst sales environment in 25 years. One cannot go into a local dealer and beg for hours for more off. (where is the competition?) Soliciting 10-20 bids from dealers via email last week of the month will provide 2-4 who really need to make a sale. Work them by cell phone (about 10-12% of dealerships are behind quota any given month.) Work from your couch for a week and do not drag the wife back and forth between 3 local dealerships. This car will likely be worth only $13-14K in a year. Meaning that year cost you $6000-7000, which is a lot to pay for one year Yes, paying 7000 to drive an average sedan, or 8000 to drive a (below avg?) Impala the 1st 12 months isn't great during normal economic times. We would like to keep this around $3000, or whatever 20% of 1st year trade in is. So, if mazda has its production and distribution in exceptionally good shape in your region, you really really need a car tomorrow, or you want the only Tangerine M6 with the dickey-bird package and leopard skin interior option within 700 miles you may have to pay up. Just don't sprain the the wife's wrist dragging her to the dealer for a once-in-a-lifetime $7000 off a Impala or $4000 off a M6. In a recession yet. OK? Good luck --jjf Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think you are saying $10,000 off on a new Mazda6 is readily available. What I think you are saying is, if you are looking to buy one with MSRP of $23,000 and the best deal you can get is $20,000, this is really not such a great deal. This car will likely be worth only $13-14K in a year. Meaning that year cost you $6000-7000, which is a lot to pay for one year. It may be that good deals are not being offered on this new model right now, like there were on the prior one and like there may be now on the outgoing Mazda3. Plus if the buyer is taking the discount financing, that costs something extra in the price too, so the reported selling price is going to reflect that. |
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Can anybody give me a range of what would be a good deal on a Mazda 6 touring with the Moonroof/Bose package, including any applicable incentives that are out there right now? I'll be purchasing in SW Pennsylvania.
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Replying to: greg0527 (Feb 22, 2009 11:49 am) |
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Just bought it yesterday at Brown's Mazda in Chantilly, VA. Out-the-door price: $29,500. Also got the 0% APR for 36 months. |
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (Jan 31, 2009 6:54 am) |
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Has anyone ordered a 6 from the factory and willing to dicuss how they negotiated a price. I am interested in a i gt manual with no options and I am in the Philadelphia area. I am aware that the applicable incentives are the ones at the time of delivery which makes things more complex. Thank you!
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