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Re: good deal? [igozoomzoom] by lemonsquares
Feb 14, 2009 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (Feb 14, 2009 7:34 am)

this is kinda what I was thinking also. 3k + financing on a brand new model seems pretty good. if this type offer doesn't move cars i would expect them to simply cut production, go in slow burn rate on money and try to wait out the recession rather than eat a big loss on a car that should be one of their best sellers. but then I will also be upset if I'm wrong and in 2 months they are cutting them by 5k also and I overpaid
 
if their depreciation really is as bad as you say the best thing to do would by one used with a few months mileage on it and save big. problem is finding one.
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Re: good deal? [lemonsquares] by jfritsch
Feb 14, 2009 (8:50 pm)
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Replying to: lemonsquares (Feb 14, 2009 12:50 pm)

Nope. Nothing earthshaking about the 6.
 
The 24000 Impala is barely worth 11000 used.
 
The $20000 Sonata (said class competitive with Honda) is barely 12000 after a year.
 
The 20000 09 Mazda5 barely worth 13000 after 12 months.
 
22000 Saturn Aura about 12000 virtually the same car as the malibu. The malibu maybe the same (not many 08s made)
 
Perhaps the 22000 mazda6 will outperform at 13000-14000. (the m3 is best in this respect) In any event, don't break a leg for a 19000 deal, as the sales figs for the 6 were the most disappointing of their lineup. The economy is in the tank. A 09 Honda Accord or Toyota Camry may be worth around the 19k.
 
Good luck
--jjf
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Good deal or what? by krazyken0
Feb 14, 2009 (10:09 pm)
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I just accepted (still time to back out) an offer on a 6 iTouring with conv pack. MSRP 25475 got the offer down to 20556.17 including TTL. What do you think? Sound like a decent deal?
This will be my first 6.. drove really well, good accel, handling, was very impressed overall with the ride.
 
Oh ..does anyone know where I can get or what is needed for the Sirius ready head unit so that I can get The satellite radio going on the car?
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Re: Good deal or what? [krazyken0] by bootlucky
Feb 15, 2009 (7:48 am)
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Replying to: krazyken0 (Feb 14, 2009 10:09 pm)

That's pretty much the same car I'm interested in and that's a better price that I've been able to get (I've e-mailed 5 dealers so far). What general location are you in and what's your sales tax? Also, can you get the special financing with that price? The best deal I've gotten on that same car was $20,500 before TTL. I'm interested in your details because it's the best price I've seen so far.
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Re: Good deal or what? [bootlucky] by lemonsquares
Feb 15, 2009 (5:45 pm)
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Replying to: bootlucky (Feb 15, 2009 7:48 am)

thats over 3k below invoice. I also am curious where you got this deal
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Re: Good deal or what? [bootlucky] by krazyken0
Feb 15, 2009 (9:09 pm)
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Replying to: bootlucky (Feb 15, 2009 7:48 am)

I live in Northeast PA and actually went to a dealer in New York to get this car
 
Actual selling price of car is 20226. I'm trading in a 2004 Accord so with the trade there is a decent break in the sales tax which is 6% in PA. Right now they have 1500 customer cash back and I also got a 500 preferred customer discount (dealer said they got about 6 of these cards from Mazda and I was given one). Salesman said most dealers get a few of these cards Mazda. Maybe with this info you can get your dealer to give you one.
 
So After trade and then adding tax is why Price is where it's at. Seems from what I'm reading that its not too bad a deal.
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Re: Good deal or what? [krazyken0] by lilengineerboy
Feb 16, 2009 (3:50 am)
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Replying to: krazyken0 (Feb 15, 2009 9:09 pm)

I'm trading in a 2004 Accord
 
Just out of curiosity, what are they giving you for your trade? also what trim, major options and miles? This can be a big difference in the deal.
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Re: good deal? [jfritsch] by aviboy97
Feb 16, 2009 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: jfritsch (Feb 14, 2009 8:50 pm)

jfritsch -
 
I would really like to see how you can figure what an 09 Mazda6 would be worth used right now. Please do not site KBB, since their values are worth nothing.
 
First, you cannot compare the 08 Mazda6 to the 09. Totally different cars and the 08 was considered a "bargain buy". The new Mazda6 offer so much more in every was over the previous model.
 
Second, you cannot talk about the Mazda6 sales being that bad because Mazda was never, and will never be on the sales charts like the Accord and Camry. The Mazda6's YOY sales numbers are not much worse the both Camry and Accords YOY sales. Mazda6 was down 8.5% for 2008 and the Accord was down 5.3%. 3.2% is not that big.
 
Also, since I highly doubt you are an economist, you are forgetting that the economy has driven down the values of every vehicle out there, including Honda and Toyota
Lastly, why is this conversation even taking place is you are not going to sell this car within a year? No one is stupid enough to do that.
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Re: good deal? [aviboy97] by stoopy
Feb 17, 2009 (12:01 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Feb 16, 2009 9:41 am)

Nice!!!
 
Jfritsch has been repeatedly put in his place and yet he continues to cite these ridiculous one year later values. It is pretty common knowledge that ANY car is going to be worth a heck of a lot less used than it is new. Quoting some kind of wholesale price bible isn't going to help anyone. Just because a car is allegedly worth $12,000 after one year doesn't mean it is even remotely possible to buy it brand new for XXXXX amount. The numbers have precisely nothing to do with each other.
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Re: good deal? [jfritsch] by djhalptert
Feb 17, 2009 (12:22 am)
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Replying to: jfritsch (Feb 14, 2009 7:13 am)

What you don't seem to understand there jfritsch, is that a Mazda6 only has a dealer holdback of 2% of it's base MSRP. BASE MSRP BEFORE OPTIONS. Even if a dealer was your Mom or Dad and sold you the car for ZERO PROFIT you are not going to get $10,000 off sticker. So what is the point of your arguement? If you are reading somewhere that a 2008 Fusion is worth $12,000 what does that have to do with a Mazda6? Am I missing something?
 
You can't buy a car for less than the dealer bought it for. If you could there would be no car dealers. They need to make money to pay their staff and pay the rent, utilities, etc. It's not realistic to try to draw conclusions about what someone should pay for a new car based on a 1 year old DIFFERENT model's TRADE-IN value. It makes no sense. As the other poster said, "WHO TRADES IN A CAR AFTER ONE YEAR ANYWAY?"

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