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Mazda MAZDA6, Hatchback, Sedan, Wagon
#1490 of 2415 Re: Mazda 6 at invoice [entropy42]
Sep 28, 2006 (2:00 am)
I'm in the Central Ohio area and also shopping for a 2006 Mazda6 (s model - V6). My dealer offered $2500 in rebates below invoice, plus another $1000.00 if I finance through MAC. He will also throw in leather interior and heated seats (outsourced to a local shop they work with). It's very tempting, but for 2007, I see Mazda has lowered the price and added features. One example (all other features being equal):
2006 Mazda6s $23,570 MSRP
4yr/50,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty
2007 Mazda6s Sport VE $22,685 ($885 difference)
AM/FM in-dash 6 disc CD Changer
Side Sill Extentions
Dual Oval Exhaust Tip
Smoke-tint Headlight Lenses
Body Colored Grill
3yr/36,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty
It's really a tough choice to either jump now or wait until this time next year when the 2007 incentives are available.
Good luck to those making an upcoming purchase, and congrats to those who ended the agonizing and made the leap! The Mazda6 is a great car!
#1491 of 2415 2007 vs 2006
Sep 28, 2006 (6:34 am)
I did notice, also, that the pricing had changed on the 2007's, and seemed significantly lower for the same level. About $1000, it seemed like to me for the example you cited, which was the car I was looking at. Other comparative models seemed to have a little different amount of change. A little change in the length of the warranty, too.
So I agonized as well. The 2007's are already about $1000 less. But maybe the incentives at the end of the year wouldn't be as much, and so maybe the total purchase price would be about the same. But maybe the incentives would have to be as large to move the 2007's since the 2008's will be a lot different. Lots of factors, and couldn't be sure.
That is why I told them I wouldn't buy at invoice. If they wouldn't have gone $500 below invoice, I told them I would just take my chances then and wait until the end of the 2007 model year.
At the end of it, I got a new 2006 Mazda6 S 6-cylinder for $17,800. If you consider what you get for that level of car, and compare it to the other cars available, and the cost of 1-2 year old used cars, and the average price of a new car sold in the U.S. today, I decided that is was a very nice deal and went for it.
#1492 of 2415 2006 mazdaspeed6?
Sep 28, 2006 (7:39 am)
Is there going to be one? Seems like EVERY Mazda dealer has several 06 speed6 cars sitting on the lot waiting for a buyer - and they are not moving well even with $3,500 in rebates and MAC money. I am tempted just becuase of the nice price, but would like to know the pricing and features of the 2007 speed6 - if there is to be one.
I noticed the speed3 has "Rain sensitive wipers" while the speed6 does not. That could be one nice thing they could change for 07 - and who knows what else?
#1493 of 2415 Re: 2006 mazdaspeed6? [dwynne]
Sep 28, 2006 (9:04 am)
There will be a '07 MS6. The only changes I'm aware of are just the deletion of the Pearl White color and the white-on-black leather option, among other small details.
Some dealers won't even acknowledge that there's an '07 model just yet, figuring it's a great way to get rid of their '06 models first. But yes, there's an '07, and it will be (temporarily) dropped when the redesigned 6 debuts in '08.
#1494 of 2415 Re: 2006 mazdaspeed6? [mz6greyghost]
Sep 28, 2006 (9:51 am)
Thanks for the info.
If it were not for that "FWD thing" I might just get a speed3. About the same HP and torque and is a 600lb (about) lighter car with tire pressure sensors and the rain sensing wipers. Stickers for less, but may sell for MORE than you would have to pay for a speed6
You would think if they make speed3 so similar (and in some ways better) than the speed6 then they would improve the speed6 to keep it ahead - and maybe help sell more of them.
#1495 of 2415 opinions on Mazda 6 Grand Touring quote
Sep 29, 2006 (1:32 pm)
I was quoted $23,600 (after rebate and before T/T/L) for a 2007 M6 Grand Touring Sport Wagon, which seems like a pretty good price. Basically, it has all options except nav. What's the likelihood that I could get this price again in the next 3-8 month timeframe? I'm guessing that the $2500 rebate won't come around again until this time in 2007. Also, any opinions as to why the warranty length was reduced from the 2006 to 2007 model? Thanks in advance.
#1496 of 2415 Re: opinions on Mazda 6 Grand Touring quote [mwash]
Sep 29, 2006 (3:16 pm)
You meant to say you got that quote on a 2006 car, right? The $2,500 rebate is on left over 2006 cars - not on the new 07 models.
There are few option on the GTSW that amount to much other than the NAV system. Does it have remote start, auto dim mirror, etc? Those are all small change items in any case.
Invoice on the car is $25,627 with nothing else, less the $2,500 rebate = $23,127. So with no options your quote is $473 over invoice. Does this include the dealer prep or doc fee? If so, then that is not too bad - if the are going to tack one on top of that price then I would ask for a better price (closer to invoice).
The rebate runs out on Monday and may be dropped, renewed, or even increased. It appears there is an additional MAC finance rebate of $1,000 on top of the $2,500? I would probably get MAC financing and take the $1k more off, then if you don't get a nice rate just refinance the car through your bank or credit union after you get the car. As long as there is no early pay off penalty in the MAC contract this should be easy to do and save you more money.
This now a "dutch auction" situation. There are xx cars available equipped like you want in the colors you like. If you hang on, the dealer will get a little more desperate to sell and Mazda may increase the rebates - but other shoppers are saying "heck, with $3,500 in rebates and car near invoice I think I will take one". So your gamble is will they still have any cars when/if the rebates get larger. $3,500 total is a lot of money, I would guess that it would not go much more - maybe $3k with no MAC tie in or something. But if they don't sell with the current deal, it will either be sweeten it or sit on the cars.
And yes, if the dealers order too many 07 cars and they too don't sell then Mazda and MAC will likely have more rebates this time next year. They may not have has many loaded up or top in (like the one you are looking at) next year to sell since the pricier ones would tend to sell slower - I guess.
The warranty changed from 48/50k bumper to bumper to 36/36k bumper to bumper + 60/60k powertrain. So 10 more months and 10k more miles powertrain but less full car coverage. My guess would be to make the warranty more in line with what other car makers are doing. Folks that think they will stay in the car longer will appreciate the longer powertrain and those that trade cars a lot will not care one way or the other.
If this is the car you like, I don't think it will get much better so you might want to hammer the price down a little more then go ahead and get it while you can. Check out the MAC money to save another $1k as well.
The changes from 06 to 07 are supposed to be:
Enhancements to the 2007 MAZDA 6 include:
Auto dimming inner mirror and Homelink standard on Grand Touring
New trim grade structure
Added standard content that includes Anti-lock Brake System (ABS), Traction Control and Side Air Bags with Side Curtains on all models and trims
Two new exterior colors – Smokestone (sedan and wagon only) and Violet Gray
But I think the 06 GTSW has ABS, TCS, and SAB/SAC - right? The mirror can be added for a couple hundred bucks by the dealer.
#1497 of 2415 Re: opinions on Mazda 6 Grand Touring quote [dwynne]
Sep 30, 2006 (8:26 am)
According to the "inventory search" on the MazdaUSA site, this is a 2007. Also, the VIN is for a 2007 car and the printed "window sticker" also says it's a 2007 but I haven't seen the car in person yet to confirm that. I'm assuming that the dealer rep knows what models he has in stock so I was surprised that the rebate apparently applied to a 2007 (this is the only 2007 M6SW they have versus 4 2006s).
I'm trying to avoid haggling in person as much as possible so I've only been emailing so far. The emailed quote said that it includes everything except "governmental fees" so I'm assuming/hoping that it covers all dealer fees. I'll confirm that by email or when I go in to see the vehicle. Interestingly, the dealer rep said that the rebate is nullified if I choose to finance via Mazda since I had read that the rebate and financing discounts could be "stacked".
I misquoted in my original post and the quote price was $23,800 instead of $23,600. It still seems like a lot of car for the money. If the gas mileage was a little bit higher I'd be a little less hesitant about going forward.
#1498 of 2415 Re: opinions on Mazda 6 Grand Touring quote [mwash]
Sep 30, 2006 (12:01 pm)
If the MazdaUSA search shows the VIN and it is an 07 VIN then it should be an 07 car. Neither the MazdaUSA web page nor Edmunds incentives nor any other page I could find shows ANY rebate on an 07 mazda6. Who told you that this applied to this car? The salesman? I bet when it all shakes out if you tried to buy this car you would find there is no rebate on it.
I heard a tale of someone who was sold a car, signed the rebate forms (assigning them to the dealer) only to have the dealer call them back in a few days asking for more money - seems the rebate was not on the car they purchased so they were being asked to make up the difference in cash.
They have the heavy incentive on the 06 cars to move them out - now that 07s are arriving or are on the lot. I can think of NO reason for them to put the same big rebate on the 07 when they have 06 cars sitting unsold.
Double check with the dealer or better still call MazdaUSA - I don't think this 07 car you are looking at has a rebate on it now - and may not until a LONG time off.
#1499 of 2415 disappearing rebate
Sep 30, 2006 (1:12 pm)
Just out of curiosity, do you know how that case worked out where the dealer made a mistake in applying rebate?