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#42 of 424 wheels. by davidd5 Dec 20, 2003 (1:28 pm)
Well bigfrog you may work for suzuki and have all that info in that big book of yours. But sorry dude I have the facts and have seen the cars. Heres a couple to check out. http://www.hometown.aol.com/kipchiang/myhomepage/profile.html http://aeriostyle.com/fullsize/63_468.jpg
#43 of 424 wow dave great pictures cool looking realy great by bigfrog Dec 20, 2003 (2:29 pm)
The facts are wheel speed affects a/c on suzuki aero.   All you have showed me is a picture of a car with rims and a bodey kit. So this means what you can buy accessories. Well glad to see your credit card works.   Here dave why don't you try something a test. Hook up a scan tool to your aerio and view the data stream for the a/c, fan speed, rpm, wheel speed, a/c center vent temp, a/c thermoster temp or if this is to complicated for you just record the whole data stream.   Drive the car how ever it is you normaly drive and record the date stream.   One time with factory wheels and one time with your a different diameter wheel and see for your self.   If you can't read the data stream foward me a copey i will teach you then you will have all the facts.   Unless your scared to be proven incorrect Dave. But I am sure you know exactly what your talking about you belong to a message board and type there every day .I only cash my suzuki pay check every week.
#44 of 424 Substantiate your claims by jasonwolfe Dec 21, 2003 (9:00 am)
Bigfrog, Could you give us a technical explanation as to why wheel speed is such a big deal on the Aerio? Merely saying that you work for Suzuki does not prove your point. Like David has said, there are TONS of Aerio owners with aftermarket wheels/tires that are much larger than the stock 195/55/15's and there have been no problems reported. Regardless of what the technical specs may suggest, the empirical evidence indicates that there is no problem whatsoever and that's what matters--real world, in situ evidence. Sure, a larger rolling diameter will slow most everything down for a given vehicle speed, but only by a small percentage and unless the Aerio is designed to operate correctly only in an extremely narrow range of conditions (and that's the exact opposite of modern car design/engineering philosophy), I just don't see where the problem is. It's not as though you can really substantially change the wheel diameter anyway--there's just not THAT huge a difference between a 195/55/15 and, say, a 215/40/18 tire (which is about as big as can be reliably fitted on an Aerio). The difference in circumference between these two tires is less than 6%. If a change that small could really screw up the Aerio, then Suzuki has some serious engineering problems to deal with.
#45 of 424 bigfrog. by davidd5 Dec 21, 2003 (9:25 am)
I didnt want this to be personal,but you chose to make it so. Perhaps you should take some of that money that suzuki gives you every two weeks, and get on the short bus to school. They can teach you how to spell. vechile X normaly X modle X haveing X don X belive X maybey X techinal X buddey X bodey X copey X need I go on? Here are some more pics. Scroll down to the white AERIO. It is sponsored by Suzuki. and it is running 16" wheels. http://rallyusa.com/ramada03/index.htm But again,what do I know. Just REAL world driving. I'm sure Suzuki would love to know an employee of theirs is kind of a jerk to the customer. I was just pointing out the FACT that you can run different rims and tires. And you have to attack me like I'm clueless.
#46 of 424 Let's stop the personal attacks... by Sylvia STAFF Dec 21, 2003 (10:00 am)
no personal insults, no baiting people into online fights. Constructive and productive discussions work, baiting doesn't.
#48 of 424 david by bigfrog Dec 21, 2003 (5:52 pm)
I did not attack you attacked me rember the frist few lines of post #40 (Bigfrog,who the heck fed you that info. I belong to an Aerio owner group.)I never said you could not run different size rims and tires on aerio. I just wanted to point that this change will affect aerio more than lets say a civic or subaru or matrix,or any other cheap car kids put 5000 doller wheels on. I never said it would not run or that nothing would work. I offered you the techinal info pages on this it is in a book for the cost of eighty dollers or go read it at your local dealer if thay will let you. I also gave you a test to do. Did you do it???
#49 of 424 to david & jason by bigfrog Dec 21, 2003 (6:10 pm)
you both asked me to prove my claim i gave dave a test he did not perform jason you can also try the test if you like it is in post #43. This test would have proved what i have been posting. If you would like to read it from the service manual please vist www.suzukipitstop.com you can buy you self a service manual or stop buy your local dealer and see if thay will let you read one. I am not going to wast any more time on this issue I teach enough actual mechanics every day. Replies to this message: liana (Sep 14, 2004 5:38 am)
#50 of 424 Bigfrog by jasonwolfe Dec 22, 2003 (1:33 pm)
I have both volumes of the 2003 Aerio factory service manual at home on a bookshelf in my office, so please give me a page that explains why wheel speed is so important. I understand how bigger wheels could affect the A/C, since for a given vehicle speed the engine is turning slower, but so what? The Aerio's A/C is too aggressive anyway. I actually bought an underdrive pulley to slow the A/C compressor down, because it blows too cold and sucks up too much power from the engine. That being said, please elaborate on what else is dependent on wheel speed. My Aerio is a 5-speed manual FWD, so I don't know much about the auto's or AWD's, but I'm still curious as to how they could be affected. I'm not flaming you or trying to give you a hard time. I really am just curious, since I get asked a lot of technical questions and I'm always looking for more information to share.

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