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Suzuki Aerio, Hatchback, Sedan, Wagon
#303 of 444 Re: Tire rotation, etc. [rarchimedes]
Jan 05, 2007 (11:04 am)
Dear All, I have been reading for a while now about people complaining that they have to rotate their tires. Do you change your oil? Do you use your turn-signal when you change directions? Do you take a bath at least once a week?
Rotating tires is basic "car 101". Rotate em every time you change oil (between 3 & 5 thousand miles) and your tires will typically go twice the advertised mileage. This, ofcourse, based on proper inflation, balance and alignment.
I have had my 2006 Aerio premium (2WD) since July and have already put 20,000 miles on her. By the way, the tires still look new. She is comfortable, quick, responsive, sure footed, quite and has a great radio. My only complaint is I can't buy anything to boost performance from Suzuki or the aftermarket.
Regularly rotate your tires and regularly take a bath. You will be happier.
#304 of 444 Re: Tire rotation, etc. [rarchimedes]
Jan 05, 2007 (11:15 am)
We know rotation is important, but not doing so before 12K should NOT make rear tires completely bald! Come on! Problem is NOT lack of tire rotation, but is a suspension issue. Why keep focusing on tire rotation and igoring obvious suspension problem with this car? Me thinks perhaps you are somehow connected to Suzuki?
And, to say that FWD is better than AWD in the snow is not our experience at all. Owned 3 FWD's (Olds 98's)previously, and NONE of them came close to the way our Audi A6 quattro AWD handles in the snow. Your comments puzzle me...
#305 of 444 Noisy power lock mechanism?
Jan 13, 2007 (10:38 pm)
Today, one or more (but I hope it is one!) of my power locks makes a loud whirring noise upon locking or unlocking the vehicle.
Has anyone had such a problem? Did a fix involve simply oiling something, or replacing entire power lock units?
#306 of 444 Re: Noisy power lock mechanism? [carthell]
Jan 13, 2007 (11:42 pm)
Sounds to me like a part will need replaced...I hope you have it covered under warranty b/c it may be a bit costly.
#307 of 444 Re: Tire rotation, etc. [lynnster2]
Jan 14, 2007 (1:40 pm)
No, I don't work for Suzuki, but your need to blame a dealer for your own problem is more than a bit bizarre. Tires on AWD cars usually only last 24-30k because of the extra wear involved, so you're telling me that not rotating the tire for half of it's expected life is not going to cause major problems. I also did note that there is an alignment problem with the Suzuki, which can be fixed with an aftermarket solution. Also, any idiot that thinks an Olds 98 with ten tons over the front wheels is any kind of comparison to a normal front wheel drive car is not too bright. Those old V8 FWD's from GM wore out tires faster than any Suzuki ever could, but they could punch a drift. The Cadillac version was a major tank in heavy drifts in New Mexico, but if it got into deep, compacted snow, it was a goner because of it's weight. All of those also had major mechanical problems, as the internal design of the FWD was very inefficient and primitive. A Quattro handles great ON compacted snow or ice, because of the distribution of drive, but no car with rear wheel drive of any kind does well when driving into snow that is clumping in front of the front wheels. That is what you get when you are driving in actively snowing conditions. The front wheels are slowed disproportionately while clearing a path for the rear wheels, and the rear wheels cannot help but push the tail end around a bunch, even with traction control. Of course, if you can afford the Olds 98 FWD or the Audi Quattros with their usual price tags and monstrous repair bills, I can't imagine what you are doing with a Suzuki of any kind, much less complaining about the paltry repair bills.
Again, if you let tires go completely bald before you catch them, there is little that anybody is going to be able to do for you. I can't afford to neglect my cars in that manner, and my girls know that if they were to let that happen to their cars, they wouldn't get much sympathy from me. Sounds to me like you have too much money and too little sense. You expect to buy a car costing less than a half of either of the other cars you name, and have it perform exactly like them. Reminds me of an oft quoted definition of insanity...doing the same thing repeatedly, and expecting something different to happen.
#308 of 444 Re: Tire rotation, etc. [rarchimedes]
Jan 14, 2007 (6:02 pm)
Wow, that your picture in the dictionary under"nasty" or what? You must get great satisfaction here, so I won't bother to feed your ego. Have a nice life!
#309 of 444 Re: Tire rotation, etc. [lynnster2]
Jan 14, 2007 (10:18 pm)
Yes, and there are whiners on every forum who are unwilling to do the least thing to solve their own problems. More than a few people on here have actually rotated their tires and paid attention to their vehicles, and they certainly have legitimate gripes. I have noted my own problems with my Suzuki, which required some persistence on my part to have fixed. So far, I have found no dealers of any brand of car who have volunteered to make expensive fixes without good documentation of a problem. Yes, and many of them do just put you off by accusing you of usually not doing things that they think you should have done. The answer to that is to do the required scheduled maintenance and document it. If you have done that, you have a perfect right to complain, and should do so until they right the problem. If you have given your child a car and expect the dealer to act as their parent in dealing with the car, you are expecting way too much of the dealer.
If you really want to do something useful, you could work for laws that require manufacturers to publish technical bulletins at no cost to the consumer. Suzuki gives very poor access to their technical bulletins, and the only meaningful way in which you can search such bulletins is if you pay Suzuki way too much money for the privilege. I am no fan of most manufacturers or dealers, but I do know that I have to do my part for any car to last in the way that I would like it. If I do my part, and the car does not last, then I will have legitimate cause for complaint.
#310 of 444 Re: Noisy power lock mechanism? [logmgr]
Jan 15, 2007 (3:50 pm)
Well, I can attempt to pass off the part as a component of the power train. Does anyone know a hypnotist?
#311 of 444 Power door lock and tire wear
Jan 15, 2007 (5:51 pm)
I had the same issue with one of my door lock mechanism and it was replaced under warranty..... only took 4 months to get the part........... Also had 6 tires go bald in 15,000 miles, even after 3 alignments at two different facilities..... maybe I should have rotated them every week?
Gave up on the piece of junk as nobody was able to fix the tire problem....... The 1986 Toyota Corolla I bought to replace it, has already given me more trouble free miles than that 2005 AWD Aerio every did
#312 of 444 suspension fix for tire wear
Jan 26, 2007 (4:30 pm)
my first 03 has something done to it that not only makes it handle better, but keeps the tires in line, and makes them last much longer... a very wize old school mechanic (70+yrs old) took one look at the ass end and tire wear , made the following observations:
no adjustment in the control arms in the rear, the camber is not adjustable and the tires will wear out excessively..
the fix? got the car in the air, removed the control arm rods
CUT THEM, made them adjustment links (looks somewhat like a turnbuckle) and replaced the rods.. ok 20K miles later and the tires still have the "nubbies" on them and should last 50K miles maybe more! my other 03 had the same problem, and the his first fix was to heat the rods, and bend them up at the center about 1 inch while on the alignment rack. this car has 75k miles and second set of tires (first set lasted 15k miles)
and now thes have 50k and are still in great shape...
my question to suzuki, if you guys are so friggin smart, why cant you build parts tha are adjustable and right the first time??? you can learn a lot from an older person