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#786 of 1470 Customers who can't remember what they've driven by bearbrawn Mar 26, 2004 (12:30 am)
Shouldn't be buying a new vehicle...   And most who have reportedly driven the Titan - had an experience they wouldn't soon forget.
#787 of 1470 Dodge truck - reliability by dirkwork Mar 26, 2004 (10:34 am)
Maybe my '95 Ram was too close to a new model to be representative, but it had some troubles with cheap parts I have not had with imports. I had less than 75k on the clock and was a yuppie owner, did not work it hard, yet I had to replace the evaporator on the AC, the steering box, the speedometer unit in the dashboard (a $400 part), an electric window motor, a HVAC vacuum motor.   I think someone else hit the nail on the head is that domestic trucks cost about the same, but with the UAW labor rate they have to use cheaper parts where the imports can use better quality materials and parts, which makes the vehicle better. IMHO, we can design just as good of a car as anyone here in the states, but our overpaid labor would make the cars uncompetitive. Where else do you get the paid $80k a year with benefits that would amaze most folks and incredible retirement plans, just for installing seats, lights, gas tanks, etc.   Ok, I'll get down off my soap box.   DD
#788 of 1470 dirk... by bowke28 Mar 26, 2004 (10:40 am)
i have no problem with people making as much money as they can...but you are right. it IS at the expense of the consumer in this case, more than any other.
#790 of 1470 It flows downhill... by bearbrawn Mar 29, 2004 (2:55 am)
Somebody explained it here awhile back....   When the CEO wants to turn the profits up - he tells his suppliers to give them cheaper parts - or we'll go somewhere else...   The supplier says, Okay, now if we have to sell the parts cheaper - we'll have to use cheaper materials...   I don't mind union representation... But I do have a problem with not being able to terminate an employee who does not want to earn the pay he receives.
#791 of 1470 towing experiment.... by bowke28 Mar 29, 2004 (9:21 am)
i had a customer that was looking for an f250 to tow a 8800 lb. camper. i mentioned to him that he can save about $10000 and get a titan crew cab that will do the job. we drove the titan, and he loved it. he said that he was uncomfortable buying the truck without testing it with his camper, so we went to his house to try it out.   we hooked it up and pulled it out of the backyard, and here are the results:   1) the camper's tongue weight was around 1100 lbs, so it was a little front heavy. this was a little much for the truck.   2) in a straight line, the titan was a hero! even with 9000 lbs. behind us, acceleration was outstanding!!!   3) turning was easy uphill, but downhill, due to the heavy tongue weight, the camper tended to push the truck a bit. this can be scary on a downhill grade on a mountain.   verdict:   while nissan made the true capacity of the truck in a straight line very strong (maybe even well over 10k lbs.), the tongue weight capacity is a little weak for a front-heavy camper. if you have a 9k lb. boat or well-balanced trailer, you will have no problems at all. just watch your tongue weight, and make sure it isnt over 900 lbs.
#792 of 1470 Union experience by dirkwork Mar 29, 2004 (10:53 am)
Well, I honestly don't know the labor cost on a new vehicle, but I was all pro-USA and big 3 until I visited my wife's relatives in Michigan. They were all UAW workers, and while some were ok, the bulk of them were pretty scary. There was no drive to produce good cars, it was "US" vs. "Management" and they would constantly bitch about all sorts of things. I heard stories that would raise your eyebrows. Guys who would punch in and then sleep in the boxes because they were hungover. One guy was working but hungover and he wanted a break so he stuffed a rag into the drive chain of the line and it caused a main breaker to blow shutting down the entire line (so he got his break). Another story about a guy who worked with them who saved and bought a corvette, and he parked way away so they...keyed it because he was being uppity. One new manager came in and got on their rear-ends (I wonder why) and he drove all around in his golf cart. They took the cart when he wasn't looking and hid it under some large boxes, and used it for joyriding around the plant - on the clock of course. After they had their way with it, they put the cart in the crusher to "show him". This is just a few stories I overheard.   I like to see folks get a fair wage but when they are earning more than most college grads with full vision, dental, healthcare benefits (even in retirement) for just doing what about anyone on the street could be trained to do in a few hours (in most cases) and then to have this attitude, it gets me riled up.   I drove home and told my wife, I'm really not pumped up to buy any more UAW built cars after that experience!   Bowke - that towing story is good useful information, I'll get off my soap box now and try to be more on topic.   I live in Houston TX and we have as many pickups on the road as other vehicles it seems, and I've only seen one Titan yet, but they are in our papers for pretty cheap, if you are looking for one try our dealers, might be worth a trip to Texas.   DD
#794 of 1470 by bowke28 Mar 29, 2004 (3:52 pm)
"I wouldn't tow 9000 pounds on ANY truck rated for 9000."   thats why this was rated for 9500.   again, the camper weight wasnt even an issue. the truck would have pulled 11k lbs. even the truck's brakes alone were really good (although you dont want to stop too much without trailer brakes hooked up) the only problem was the fact that there was over 1100 lbs. on the tongue. his camper was uncharacteristically front-heavy. a normally balanced load of 9000 lbs. should have a tongue weight of about 900 lbs. (10%)
#795 of 1470 Tongue weight? by armen Mar 29, 2004 (4:19 pm)
Pardon me for my naivete, bowke28, but can you please explain what tongue weight is? I'm about to get my Titan with the tow package and would like to know. Thanks a bunch!

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