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#782 of 1470 Titan or Ram? (Not a flame post) by jhawk5 Mar 23, 2004 (4:08 pm)
Hello: This is NOT a flame post...I saw what happened to the other thread about this topic.   I may be in the market for a new truck and am looking at a Titan and a Ram. I did a short test drive on a King Cab Titan the other day, and test drove a Ram about a year ago. I like both trucks. For those of you who also comparisoned shopped, what were your thougths about these two trucks? Do the Rams have any common mechanical problems (I've just started hanging out in a Ram forum to learn about such stuff)? I know there have been some complaints about the Titan's bed liner peeling and the RF stereo fading out. Any info or thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
#783 of 1470 by bearbrawn Mar 24, 2004 (12:09 am)
Nissan will fix the problems without pause...   Dodge will fight tooth and nail to avoid accepting any responsibility for their problems.   They are undergoing some big changes - they will get up to Nissan's level again someday, maybe.   I drove Dodges for 25 years - and had great luck with them - but Daimler-Chrysler is a different beast.
#784 of 1470 jhawk... by bowke28 Mar 25, 2004 (7:57 am)
i would be sure to drive both as close together as possible. the one you like better will be the best bet. most of my customers cant remember what kind of car they test-drove a week ago, let alone whether they liked it or not.
#785 of 1470 no flaming plz by offroadnarmada Mar 25, 2004 (6:43 pm)
Even though Nissan might be having some issues with their trucks (as expected for any first year model), so far I haven't heard anyone report issues with the drivetrain. On the other hand, I have heard of Dodge trannys AND engines going out at least a hundred thousand miles before they should. Everyone I have talked to has had the parts replaced under warranty, but still, replacing a faulty part doesn't always fix the issue...
#786 of 1470 Customers who can't remember what they've driven by bearbrawn Mar 26, 2004 (12:30 am)
Shouldn't be buying a new vehicle...   And most who have reportedly driven the Titan - had an experience they wouldn't soon forget.
#787 of 1470 Dodge truck - reliability by dirkwork Mar 26, 2004 (10:34 am)
Maybe my '95 Ram was too close to a new model to be representative, but it had some troubles with cheap parts I have not had with imports. I had less than 75k on the clock and was a yuppie owner, did not work it hard, yet I had to replace the evaporator on the AC, the steering box, the speedometer unit in the dashboard (a $400 part), an electric window motor, a HVAC vacuum motor.   I think someone else hit the nail on the head is that domestic trucks cost about the same, but with the UAW labor rate they have to use cheaper parts where the imports can use better quality materials and parts, which makes the vehicle better. IMHO, we can design just as good of a car as anyone here in the states, but our overpaid labor would make the cars uncompetitive. Where else do you get the paid $80k a year with benefits that would amaze most folks and incredible retirement plans, just for installing seats, lights, gas tanks, etc.   Ok, I'll get down off my soap box.   DD
#788 of 1470 dirk... by bowke28 Mar 26, 2004 (10:40 am)
i have no problem with people making as much money as they can...but you are right. it IS at the expense of the consumer in this case, more than any other.
#790 of 1470 It flows downhill... by bearbrawn Mar 29, 2004 (2:55 am)
Somebody explained it here awhile back....   When the CEO wants to turn the profits up - he tells his suppliers to give them cheaper parts - or we'll go somewhere else...   The supplier says, Okay, now if we have to sell the parts cheaper - we'll have to use cheaper materials...   I don't mind union representation... But I do have a problem with not being able to terminate an employee who does not want to earn the pay he receives.
#791 of 1470 towing experiment.... by bowke28 Mar 29, 2004 (9:21 am)
i had a customer that was looking for an f250 to tow a 8800 lb. camper. i mentioned to him that he can save about $10000 and get a titan crew cab that will do the job. we drove the titan, and he loved it. he said that he was uncomfortable buying the truck without testing it with his camper, so we went to his house to try it out.   we hooked it up and pulled it out of the backyard, and here are the results:   1) the camper's tongue weight was around 1100 lbs, so it was a little front heavy. this was a little much for the truck.   2) in a straight line, the titan was a hero! even with 9000 lbs. behind us, acceleration was outstanding!!!   3) turning was easy uphill, but downhill, due to the heavy tongue weight, the camper tended to push the truck a bit. this can be scary on a downhill grade on a mountain.   verdict:   while nissan made the true capacity of the truck in a straight line very strong (maybe even well over 10k lbs.), the tongue weight capacity is a little weak for a front-heavy camper. if you have a 9k lb. boat or well-balanced trailer, you will have no problems at all. just watch your tongue weight, and make sure it isnt over 900 lbs.

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