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#31 of 1470 Most long beds I see... by rsholland Jan 08, 2003 (5:39 pm)
are 3/4 models, by a long shot... I'd say the ratio is probably 20 3/4 tons long-beds to every 1/2 ton long-bed, at least.   Bob
#32 of 1470 8 foot bed... rsholland by abc246 Jan 09, 2003 (5:07 am)
"Most 1/2 ton trucks, with 8' beds, have lousy payload ratings, especially 4x4 versions." Really? My Silverado 8 foot bed 1/2 ton payload capacity is nearly 1 ton! In both 2wd and 4wd versions the payload capacity is HIGHER for the 8 foot bed. Why? Becasue the GVWR is higher for the 8 foot bed truck. I see many 1/2 ton Silverados with 8 foot beds. Many construction sites, state parks, beach patrols, military use, ect, use these 1/2 ton trucks with 8 foot beds.
#33 of 1470 abc246 by rsholland Jan 09, 2003 (6:17 am)
Most new full-size 1/2 ton 4x4 with 8' beds have payloads between 1400 - 1800 pounds, which for a truck that size—is lousy. I've even seen some (Dodge, 1375 pounds, Quad Cab 4x4, 8' bed, IIFC) that are rated under 1400 pounds.   1800 pounds is okay, but still not great, IMO. My old '86 F-150 regular cab, 8' bed 4x4, had a payload of 2200 pounds. Frankly, I think all full-size trucks should have a minimum payload of 2000 pounds.   Most contractors must feel the same way, as HD 3/4 models are clearly the vehicle of choice. Yes, there are uses for 8' bed 1/2 tons; I never said there wasn't. I'm just saying that at least 90% of all full-size 1/2 tons sold, are with short beds and extended cabs, at least that's true where I live, which is rural/suburban Maryland.   Bob
#34 of 1470 by ryanbab Jan 09, 2003 (6:34 am)
payload ratings (03 Silverado brochure pg 46-47)   Reg cab short box 2wd - 1958lbs Reg cab short box 4wd - 1661lbs   Reg cab long box 2wd - 2123lbs Reg cab long box 4wd - 1821lbs   These values are for the standard 4.3L V-6 engine.
#35 of 1470 ryan by rsholland Jan 09, 2003 (6:39 am)
Chevy (and GMC) does a better job than Ford or Dodge. Check their payload ratings. I think you'll find them lower. In every case, no matter what brand, 2WDs will have higher payloads, assuming they both have the same GVW.   Also, the extended cab models—which is what most 1/2 tons are sold as, are lower still, for both 2WD & 4WD.   Bob
#36 of 1470 same source by ryanbab Jan 09, 2003 (6:58 am)
yea ext cab models are lower.   ext cab sb 2wd (4.3) - 1645lbs ext cab sb 4wd (4.8) - 1475lbs   ext cab lb 2wd (5.3) - 1572lbs ext cab lb 4wd (5.3) - 1288lbs   And for comparison issues   reg cab long bed 2500HD 2wd (6.0) - 4047lbs reg cab long bed 2500HD 4wd (6.0) - 3760lbs   ext cab long bed 2500HD 2wd (6.0) - 3644lbs ext cab long bed 2500HD 4wd (6.0) - 3372lbs
#37 of 1470 Ryan by rsholland Jan 09, 2003 (7:06 am)
ext cab sb 2wd (4.3) - 1645lbs ext cab sb 4wd (4.8) - 1475lbs   ext cab lb 2wd (5.3) - 1572lbs ext cab lb 4wd (5.3) - 1288lbs   What Chevy is quoting here is typical of all brands. A 1288lbs payload, for a full-size truck is LOUSY!   The worst offenders are: 4x4, long-bed, extended-cab, 1/2 ton pickups. The payloads on those models—from *all* brands—are LOUSY! I don't think there's one over 1400 pounds. And if there is, it's *barely* over that limit. Also note, these are the least popular 1/2 tons. I wonder why...   Bob
#38 of 1470 rsholland by abc246 Jan 09, 2003 (10:06 am)
"The worst offenders are: 4x4, long-bed, extended-cab, 1/2 ton pickups. The payloads on those models—from *all* brands—are LOUSY! I don't think there's one over 1400 pounds. And if there is, it's *barely* over that limit. Also note, these are the least popular 1/2 tons. I wonder why..."   I am sure it has **nothing** to do with the payload rating. A few hundred pounds payload rating is not going to make someone switch from LWB to SWB. The fact is these trucks are just too damm long! Try parking one of these trucks in a busy lot....forget it. Most of these trucks are use to carry poeple or tow and owners seem to like the better ride from the 1/2 ton models over the 3/4 ton trucks.
#39 of 1470 abc246 by rsholland Jan 09, 2003 (11:52 am)
Payload has nothing to do with it? Then why are long-bed extended cab 3/4 & 1-ton models, sell so well, and the 1/2 ton versions don't? It's payload (and towing) capability of the HD trucks buddy. Those are "work" trucks.   1/2 tons are rarely considered as work trucks these days. The lion's share are sold for personal use—and Nissan (and Ford, etc.) knows that.   Bob
#40 of 1470 Too long by obiwankenobi1 Jan 09, 2003 (1:23 pm)
Is really the only point to look at here. When I was selling new & used autos at a car broker, a guy traded in his 98 F-150 Ext. Cab long bed. That thing was an absolute NIGHTMARE to manuver around the lot. Matter of fact, when I talked with him, he said the main reason he was getting rid of it was because of the length. He was tired of having to try to park it and drive it in small places.   That said, I think as a work truck ONLY, the long bed serves it purpose (on 1/2, 3/4 and 1 tons). As far as every day use, not very many people need something much larger than a 6.5 foot bed.   If Nissan does well with the Titan, maybe they will release a long bed, but I just don't think that is what they are worried about right now.   Also, the absolute WORSE long bed I have seen is the new Dodge Crew Cab with the long bed. That thing is HUGE!!!!   Obi

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