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Scion xA, Scion xB, Hatchback, Wagon
#567 of 734 Interesting comments on these little
Feb 14, 2006 (7:53 pm)
scooters, and, you know, since I haven't traded in my '01 Sportage yet, I could still look at an xA. But, by all rights, I'll go get a 2006 Kia Rio LX. I love the style of the LX sedan and I love the style of the Rio5, too.
I researched the Scion xA and I still love the xA RS 1.0 and 2.0. AAMOF-when does the Scion xA RS 3.0 come out? What color will it be?
For that car I could be tempted to wait for it and put off the '06 Rio purchase. Great little cars. Not a harsh word against them will leave my mouth, dudes.
#568 of 734 Re: Interesting comments on these little [iluvmysephia1]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Feb 14, 2006 (9:16 pm)
You can just "make" your own RS pretty inexpensively.
#569 of 734 Aside from the paint
Feb 15, 2006 (5:02 am)
and jazzed-up upholstery, I don't see anything on the RS xA's that you can't find from aftermarket sources...there are all sorts of bolt-on goodies for the Scions. www.newscionparts.com has a neat assortment, including accessories from the Japanese domestic market. That's one of the things I find appealing about these cars...lots of options for sprucing things up a tad if you want. I could go for the EP-10 alloys (sticking with a 15" wheel and tire for ride and fuel econ), spoiler (no function whatsoever, but adds a nice spice to the look), and some tint on the back door, rear quarter, and rear windows. Tastefully jazzed-up, without getting into "ricer" territory. Of course, if you want 18" wheels, lowering springs, and furious-wasps-in-a-coffee-can muffler, the xA can accomodate. Lots of xA's out there tricked out.
I did see a pic of a Sapphire Blue Kia Rio5 (right-hand drive) with custom 2-tone leather (dark blue inserts, tan trim) and red(!) carpet. Looked pretty neat!
Todd in Cheesecurdistan
Feb 15, 2006 (9:21 am)
yeah, I am pretty much sold on getting a 2006 Kia Rio5 or Rio LX sedan. There's a Tropical Red Rio5 at my local dealer and I just got an e-mail from somebody in Idaho Falls, ID(50 miles north of Pocatello, ID)and the guy told me that, if he can fit into it, he will buy the Rio5 this Friday. He has been following my posts here on Edmunds and grabbed my e-mail address and e-mailed me.
That leaves the two manual-trannied Rio LX sedans, 5-speeds both of them, one Sapphire Blue and one Silver. The Silver looks pretty good on a Rio LX sedan, because Kia puts those new large, black door mouldings on them. The black and silver blend nicely. You know, I like the sedan's body style just a tad more over the Rio5's. But the Rio5 offers bigger tires, metal pedals and a rear spoiler and a beefier, sportier suspension with improved handling characteristics. So I would still be open to the Rio5 if he can't fit into it. BTW-it's bigger than people think up there in the front cabin area, he'll fit into it. So, my plan will be to get a Rio LX sedan and, down the road a piece, look for sales and buy a nice tire and wheel combo that will look cool and improve handling. The thing is, I'm not a highway star, anyway. The sedan's ride and handling of the twisties will already suit me just fine from the start.
Back to this topic and the Scion xA. I don't think you can go wrong with one of these. And, yes, one can put some EP-10 alloys on and a spoiler, etc. The RS xA's also have the "glowing" dash lights for extra accent, which is gimmicky, but kind of cool as well.
The Scion xA would fit my needs pretty nicely and, I just saw while dining and shopping in Idaho Falls, ID, the other night, the Toyota dealer there stocks Scion's now. Previously the only Scion dealer in the lower western, central and eastern Idaho areas was in Boise, Idaho. So I would have a Scion dealer to deal with only 50 miles to the north of me.
Robert Allen Kia is in my hometown of Pocatello, ID, though, so that is very cool.
#571 of 734 Re: b3nut... [iluvmysephia1]
Feb 15, 2006 (11:52 am)
Yup, I definitely see the appeal of the Rio and Rio5...Kia hit a styling bullseye IMHO. The xA is a wonderful car, but the Rio5 is awfully tempting with the somewhat increased room and longer wheelbase, not to mention the dashboard design which I like a little better than the xA's. If the new Accent/Rio platform is as dependable as the previous Accent has been the last 2 years, Hyundai/Kia will have a small-car winner on their hands. The outgoing Accent has had a sterling reliabilty record in CR, at least...the Korean cars are coming of age, for sure. Kinda torn on this one, though the xA was the first little car on the current market to really catch my attention, and I keep coming back to it. Maybe it's just calling my name.
I did see my local Scion dealer (Smart Toyota-Scion-Volvo, Madison WI) has additional options for Scions, including custom leather interiors in any color you like. They must bring an upholsterer in for that...Toyota dealer I used to deal with back in Michigan did that. I almost had that done to my old '93 Paseo back in the day...
Todd in Beerbratistan
#572 of 734 Compare XA and Fit
Feb 15, 2006 (3:21 pm)
I've been wondering when someone will do a thorough comparison of the XA and the Honda Fit. My Sophocles is performing well, but I was a Honda owner 4 times previously. If the Fit had been here last year, it would have been my first choice. The Fit should be out next month. Meanwhile,I know the Fit has 14" wheels, (Scion 15")has a much more versatile interior, and a peppier engine. Anyone want to comment?
#573 of 734 Re: Compare XA and Fit [johnnicon]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Feb 15, 2006 (4:01 pm)
The two seem more or less dead equal, as if Honda replicated an xA. The Fit qualifies as an ULEV vehicle which the xA isn't (yet). You can get 15" wheels on the Fit Sport, but then you are putting out extra $$$.
Looks like a toss up to me....
#574 of 734 The Fit
Feb 15, 2006 (6:56 pm)
is a very cool little hatch. The interior design is really unique, a good bit of forward thinking in there. I don't like the melding of the stereo head unit into the dash, though. My present car ('00 Escort ZX2) has the radio and climate controls in a "pod", and there's no way to replace the factory head unit (which controls a now-dead absurdly-overpriced 6-disc changer that died 2 years after I bought the car, which was past the 36K-mile warranty limit) with a better one without resorting to a dash kit that, frankly, is atrocious-looking. There is no easy upgrade path for audiophiles for the head unit in the Fit. I'll never buy another car that locks me into a potentially-broken stereo, or whose manufacturer denies my right the choose the stereo gear of my choice. The new Civic is the same way, it's annoying. For most consumers, it isn't an issue, they'll just replace the factory unit when it goes belly-up. I like the option to replace the stock head with something different, even if I like the factory system for the time being (which in the xA's case I do, I'd get by fine with it for awhile, it sounds darn good for a stock setup.)
I do like the Fit's guage cluster though, aesthetically. Honda even copied Toyota in omitting the coolant temp guage, which is curious. Not that you get much useful info from a temp guage, but I like having one. Not a dealbreaker, but strikes me as odd nonetheless.
Todd in Cheesecurdistan
#575 of 734 My wife saw the lit for the xA and Rio5...
Feb 16, 2006 (12:04 pm)
...and made retching noises when she saw the xA, so that pretty much nixes that one. But she liked the Rio5, and was impressed by the warranty, airbags, and the price, so it looks like the Rio5 gets the nod of the two. I guess a timing belt change every 60K isn't too bad, from the maintenance guide here on Edmunds it looks to be a much cheaper job than it was for my ZX2...cost around a grand to replace that belt! I will no doubt enjoy the Rio5, I love the way it drives and looks, but I will be in envy of the little xA's and the lovely Echo motor. Fine little hatch, that Scion.
Todd in Beerbratistan
Feb 16, 2006 (1:16 pm)
I am right there, too, only my wife doesn't want to depart with our '01 Sportage 4x4. I have really not even mentioned the 2006 Kia Rio5 or Rio LX sedans yet (the Rio5 is Tropical Red in color and the two LX sedans are Silver and Sapphire Blue). All are still available and all have the manual tranny's-a must for this padre.
I will go to work on selling the idea. I'm just waiting for the right time...and some warmer weather!
We're at about 15 degrees right now, at 2:00PM! Eeek!