Last post on Jan 19, 2003 at 8:38 AM
You are in the Maintenance & Repair - Archived Discussions
This discussion is ARCHIVED. To reactivate the discussion, post a request in the Lost? Ask the M&R Host for directions! discussion.
What is this discussion about?
Dodge Intrepid, Engine
#11 of 63 2.7 engine is problematic
Jan 07, 2003 (9:45 pm)
i had a 99 dodge intrepid that i traded in yesterday for a 2002 nissan altima. unfortunately i only got 1600$ for my trade cuz my engine failed after only 66k miles. from what i understand, the 2.7 gets really hot and burns oil inside the engine. alot of people have had problems with the engine "sludging up". chrysler knows that it is a problem, but if you cannot provide proof of oil changes every 3,000 miles they wont do anything for you - by the way, the oil changes must have been done at the dealer!!! my trep has been in the shop more in the last 6 months than imaginable. June- AC recharge 80$, July- engine fan motor replacement 350$, August- AC recharge w/ dye 120$, September- Cam and crank position sensors 400$, October- drivers window fell down into door needed to be completely replaced 200$, December 28th vehicle picked up after AC compressor replacement 680$, December 29th engine failure 5700$ estimate, January 6th- Nissan Altima! I called chrysler twice and their response was " there's nothing we can do because of the vehicles mileage, these things happen." yeah whatever, if a dodge were on fire, i wouldn't spit on it to put it out.
#12 of 63 What amazes me........
Jan 08, 2003 (4:22 pm)
.....is people continue to buy DC products. It'll be a cold day in he11 before I buy another one. They make some nice looking vehicles, but until they start building cars that'll hold up like the imports, I'm not touching them.
#13 of 63 can't say it enough... save your shop receipts
Jan 08, 2003 (5:03 pm)
because if you need 'em to prove a point, and you don't have 'em, you have to go through a lot of hoorah in real court to subpoena the maintenance records from the dealer. assuming they didn't decide when you filed the case that it was time to purge the creepy old crap off the computer.... remember, it ain't illegal if they shred before they are ordered not to. immoral, communistic, and spawned by the devil maybe, but you have to prove your own case.
as for DC customer dissatisfaction, eventually it will bite them. HOW eventually depends on whether they are paying attention to customer complaints and warranty requests and media attention. if they are, they will change. if they aren't, they will drive toyotas to the unemployment line and wonder why.
#14 of 63 Sorting out the domestics
Jan 09, 2003 (8:49 am)
I have never met with the resistance from CHRYSLER people that is reported here. Those of you with recent experiences-- would you characterize the refractory attitudes as products of the merger with Daimler? Over a period of three decades, my overall assessment is that I have gotten along BETTER with Chrysler than with either of the other two of the Big Three. I am finding evidence favoring Ford Corporation to be mounting and moving up in my overall estimation. These are important considerations for us to look over, before each of us next wanders into the market place to buy our next vehicle.
#15 of 63 It's the Daimler influence - I saw
Jan 09, 2003 (11:38 am)
it during the transition.
#16 of 63 Why do people keep buying Chryslers?
Jan 09, 2003 (11:50 am)
Well, because some people still have good luck with them! I've got about 74,500 miles on my '00 Trep now, with the 2.7 V-6, and haven't had any major problems yet. I change the oil myself, so I know what's going into it, and see what the old oil looks like as it's coming out. I also check the dipstick regularly to make sure it doesn't get low, and I have the tranny serviced every 30,000 miles.
If I had bad luck with Chryslers, trust me, I wouldn't keep buying them!
#17 of 63 As for the Daimler influence...
Jan 09, 2003 (11:52 am)
...I don't know if it's been good for Chrysler or not. When I was at the auto show the other week, the build quality on most of the Chrysler products there looked like it's actually slipped a bit, compared to my Intrepid. They were still noticeably better than the Ford and especially GM products, but it seems Chrysler always has problems getting their doors to line up correctly.
#18 of 63 Why do people keep buying Chryslers?
Jan 10, 2003 (11:59 am)
Because they are first timers and have not experienced the "Chrysler" experience, or they are zealots that are deaf dumb and blind to the "Chrysler " quality problems ie the "Bush" factor.
Pmack: Congrats on your decision to go with the Altima--excellent auto and in five years it will be worth much more than a lowly decrepit of the same age.
Dutchboy ditch that thing--and remember to tell everyone you can about your experience with the Decrepit. A good place to pass along the info is in the Intrepit topic in sedans, although it might be inactive, I haven't checked for some time. In the past a few Chrysler Huggers posted in that forum.
Jan 10, 2003 (1:06 pm)
...the only Chrysler product I had that had any major problems was an '88 LeBaron, but it was my ex-wife's and had over 100,000 miles on it by that time. In constrast, my Mom & stepdad had a '91 Stanza that needed major work by around 90,000 miles, and their '99 Altima crapped its tranny at 35,000 miles.
Oh, and my roommate's grandmother has a 2001 Altima with a problem that I thought the manufacturers cleared up decades ago...water leaks!
But, through all that, I don't go around bad-mouthing the Altima and calling all of them crap, or people who buy them stupid.
Trust me, if my Intrepid was a POS, I'd unload it.
#20 of 63 I wanna hear
Jan 10, 2003 (1:22 pm)
How DC's quality issues are the fault of the Bush administration as alluded to by message #18.
I personally think free markets are the best thing to ultimately produce the best vehicles, not protectionist policies.
I've owned three pre-DC Mopar's.