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Dodge Intrepid, Engine
#1 of 63 Trying to find the culprit
Dec 30, 2002 (3:23 pm)
I just noticed our Intrepid (2.7 litre engine) has started using oil at 63K miles. I'm ruling out the types and brands of oil and oil filters I've used as causing the problem. I've never gone more than 3K miles on dino, or 6K synthetic for oil change intervals, and I've always used either Puralator PureOne or Mobil 1 filters. This leads me to believe the problem is caused either by the K&N air filter, or by DC themselves. I've learned since my purchase of the K&N, that they don't filter as well as OEM filters. I'm wondering if the filter has caused this problem, or is this engine just one more poorly built product by DC? They've had so many over the years, it wouldn't surprise me. Are any of you folks having oil consumption problems with your Intrepids?
Dec 30, 2002 (3:53 pm)
I dipped the stick on our 1996 Concorde the other day, with near 3K on the oil and filter. It showed almost a quart low on the 6 quart crankcase. It's a 3.5L V6 with only 23+K miles on it (Granny's car). I'm a bit puzzled. I don't recall ever having to top it up ever before.
Jan 02, 2003 (4:02 pm)
Nobody else is having this problem? I guess I got a Monday car.
#4 of 63 re:bottgers
Jan 02, 2003 (4:11 pm)
what is your oil consumption?
Jan 02, 2003 (4:16 pm)
...my '00 Intrepid now has about 74,000 miles on it, and the only time it ever came up really low was one time the drain plug came loose. It was about a quart low, and thankfully I caught it in time. I think the only other time I had to add oil, the most I've ever had to add is maybe 1/2 a quart.
How much oil are you using? I've heard that it's not uncommon for some engines to use up to 1 quart of oil every 1000 miles and it's considered "normal". Only time I've ever had a car use that much oil though, was when it was leaking somewhere!
#6 of 63 K&N air filters, if properly used/maintained
Jan 02, 2003 (6:22 pm)
work MUCH better than OEM - filtration and flow.
What's your consumption rate? 2.7s have had crank sensor seal and cam seal issues - look there first.
#7 of 63 I just happened to check it..........
Jan 02, 2003 (7:07 pm)
......about a week ago while I was at the gas station for a fill up. The car has never used a drop between changes (even using 6K change intervals with synthetic). Now all of a sudden, it's a quart low. Hard to tell what the consumption rate is, but now I'll be keeping a closer eye on things.
zueslewis - I don't think you'll get any arguments in here about the K&N outflowing OEM filters, but I think you'll get plenty of arguments about whether it filters as well. In fact, I think the general consensus is that it doesn't filter as well as OEM filters.
#8 of 63 They don't filter well when they're not maintained.
Jan 02, 2003 (7:12 pm)
I've run dyno tests when I was with Super Shops that proved superior filtration (micron testing equipment in place).
I was in San Bernardino, CA when several performance companies leased a dyno house to run proving tests - I was really happy to be around all that.
#9 of 63 My 2.7L engine is toast
Jan 03, 2003 (5:41 am)
My '98 Intrepid had the engine drop out at 111,000 km. It needs a new block or replace with a used engine. Either way cost of parts and labour is $6000. I'm exploring my options and from what I've found out so far this engine has major problems and they are starting to drop like flies. I'm hoping Chrylser will put things right for me, or it will be the last one I buy and I'll go on an anti-Chrysler campaign with anyone I talk to. Are you listening Chrysler?
#10 of 63 I really would contact Chrysler Customer Assistance -
Jan 03, 2003 (5:46 am)
as a former DCC service manager, I (under the table) recommended that option to folks who were out of warranty and very often DCC would step up and replace and engine or transmission with the owner paying a deductible. It's certainly worth a call.