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Aug 20, 2007 (8:39 am)
Yeah there's been a lot of complaining about the lack of a dipstick in E90s.
Had a 740i Sport come up from freehold not terribly long ago.. was a nice car, '00 Sport with about 100k. Engine sludged up badly... guy was the original owner and told that 15k oil change intervals were fine! Car came in for a blown trans.. while we were at it he asked why it ran so poorly!
#749 of 787 I got a good deal... and the Dealer did too
Aug 20, 2007 (12:24 pm)
We agreed we needed something bigger and AWD now that we've moved to the frozen North and have a King Kong toddler whose feet are usually kicking my headrest in the Acura... Also I knew that if I was going to get decent money on my trade I had to do it now, while there was still 5000+ miles left on the original mfg warranty...
So I drove lots of CUV's... Buick Enclave, Mazda CX-9, the 08 Highlander, Murano, Pacifica... and the one we liked the best, the Hyundai Veracruz.
Went to a nearby dealer and was treated, literally, like dirt. Long story short, this led me to do a lot of searching in a 150 mile radius to find the exact car I wanted (Limited, all options) and get quotes. Called the Internet Manager at a larger dealer around 100 miles away, who offered a price out of the box $1,000 below invoice. This was way, way better than I had gotten from my other internet contacts. We then discussed my trade and he gave me a range, the upper end of which I could live with (and was right at KBB)...
So I pre-qualified with a lender and set up an appointment with the sales guy. My wife and I had only a brief window on a Saturday afternoon to either do this deal or leave, since our 2-year old was tearing it up with his not-entirely-up-for-it grandparents...
We roll in to the dealership and find the vehicle prepped and ready for a test drive. Wifey and I head out (on our own) and run through a long checklist of pre-acceptance stuff. We find a few things to get cleaned up, but love the car.
We head back and meet up with our sales guy, who offers a price for my trade above the range we had discussed on the phone. He clearly thought I was going to pound him over the value, but what he didn't know was that after a week of trying to sell it myself (Craigs List, Cars.com etc at a lower price that his offer) I had maybe one lead. And I would have lost money due to the sales tax on the full new car value. So I happily took his offer, asked for (and got) a couple of freebies and the deal was done.
They finished prep on the car, we signed (after spending four whole minutes with the F&I guy) and we drove off. All told, first to last we spent two hours at the dealership. We LOVE the car, all expectations exceeded.
My wife absolutely HATES buying cars and had a bad cold on Saturday - yet she said this is the best car buying experience she has ever had.
Now, I have NO DOUBT that I could have put in some time and ground the guy down a little bit more. Maybe, possibly as much as $1,000, between the trade and the price of the new car - but I doubt it. And it just wasn't worth our time.
We love the car. Buying the car was easy and low pressure. It was a great process. The sales guy seemed very happy with the deal. We were very happy with the deal.
After reading this and other forums, I don't get how money is the only criterion of value received. Maybe it's me... I just don't need the ego stroke of conquering the dealership and grinding them to death. In a way this carries through to the car we bought... I mean, with the Hyundai I'm getting all the function and quality but none of the prestige. I guess I don't need the validation... but those of you who do, keep posting. It's entertaining!
#750 of 787 Re: I got a good deal... and the Dealer did too [cplyons]
Aug 21, 2007 (5:15 am)
cplyons....the thing that I kept reading in your post was "WE LOVE THE CAR".
That's the bottom line. You got good trade value. You bought something you love You liked the buying experience.
There is no down side here.
Congrats on the new ride.
#751 of 787 Re: I got a good deal... and the Dealer did too [cplyons]
Aug 21, 2007 (5:25 am)
did you really mean $1k below INVOICE?? Or did you mean below STICKER?
I just can't believe they are already paying people to take such a new model off their hands.
#752 of 787 Re: I got a good deal... and the Dealer did too [qbrozen]
Aug 21, 2007 (5:27 am)
Well it is Hyundai they are about as bad as the domestics for offering the perception of a good deal.
#753 of 787 Re: I got a good deal... and the Dealer did too [british_rover]
Aug 21, 2007 (5:31 am)
Oh, I hear ya. But even Buick will sell the Enclave for above invoice for as long as their is demand.
#754 of 787 Re: I got a good deal... and the Dealer did too [qbrozen]
Aug 21, 2007 (9:54 am)
Oh yes, I most certainly did say $1,000 below PUBLISHED DEALER INVOICE for the loaded Hyundai Veracruz. I understand that doesn't represent what the dealer had in the vehicle, but as I reported in my post it was miles better than the other dealer offers I received.
Sticker (manufacturer's maroney only, no dealer add-on stuff) was $38,325. I paid $34,500, and then got $500 more back from Hyundai. I did a lot of research, and as I say, I think I got a very nice deal. And, I love the car.
#755 of 787 Re: I got a good deal... and the Dealer did too [cplyons]
Aug 21, 2007 (10:07 am)
that was fast. i'm surprised the vehicle is such a bust for them already, especially with all this talk about it being so lexus-like. (and this isn't anything negative against the vehicle, i'm sure its very nice)
#756 of 787 Re: I got a good deal... and the Dealer did too [cplyons]
Aug 21, 2007 (10:54 am)
Would you mind telling us the name of the dealership and where it is located.
#757 of 787 Re: I got a good deal... and the Dealer did too [qbrozen]
Aug 21, 2007 (11:28 am)
q...I've bought (or helped someone buy) two Hyundais. First, was my son's Elantra over 4 years ago. Snagged that one well below invoice. I kept the incentives.
A few months ago, I helped a friend byuy a new Sonata. Got that one well below invoice, too. She kept the incentives.
So, clearly there's some sort of Hyundai factory support $$$$ going on with the dealerships that aren't published in the usual places.