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Saab 9-3, Mazda MAZDA3, Mazda MAZDA6, BMW 3 Series, Scion xA, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Coupe, Hatchback, Sedan
#53 of 57 Re: jchan2 [jchan2]
May 17, 2006 (6:50 pm)
I've got a Hyundai Elantra hatchback. The similarities in styling to the 9-3 are striking.
So is the price difference.
#54 of 57 My dream hatch
Aug 09, 2006 (11:18 am)
The closest I've seen to my ultimate hatchback is the Nissan Moco, available overseas and made by Suzuki. It is very tiny four door that comes is great colors inside and out. In a couple reviews I've read that mentioned it (through a global nissan party of sorts) the reviewers (men) said it was a chick's car and completely ingnored it. Hello, women are 50% of the buying population! Ah, well. They were biased because the test car was pink, I bet.
My ultimate hatchback will have:
*Sub- to compact exterior
*Plush seats that are comfy on long trips and don't make your bum numb.
*Heated folding power mirrors with turn signal
*Oversized rearview mirror and/or excellent rear visibility
*Fold flat seats (including passenger) and level load floor
*wide, low loading opening with scratch guards
*Under seat storage
*easy to read guages and stereo controls
*a Manual that's not written for dummies who can't buckle their seat belt properly nor for tuners who already know where to put the fluids but for someone in between (aka me)
*Latch system (might have kids one of these days)
*powerful a/c and heat
*stain-resistant carpeting and seat cloth
*snazzy colors for exterior (keep black, white, silver and red, but add more interesting choices like turquoise, sage green, butter yellow, and metallic pearl options).
*heat-resistant interior materials and colors (ban black interiors! Bring on the beige!) Moco is available in either teal or apricot interior.
*tight turning circle
*great gas milage, of course (like 40-50 mpg) or biodiesel
*self-cleaning every time it rains, instead of looking dirtier (how is it possible, anyway?)
*Occasional seating for 6 would be nice
Search for pics of the Moco on the web. I know it looks like a toy car, but that's part of the appeal, mind you! If I got one I'd like it to be 50-75% bigger but still retain the cute factor.
#55 of 57 Re: Here is the new place... [revka]
Jun 16, 2007 (12:17 am)
1. 1960s Mini Cooper Body.
2. 15" wheels.
3. 4 Seater. Elevated center column for structural rigidity, the driveshaft, and other linkage (similar to the Rx8)
4. RWD, Limited Slip Differential.
5. 105hp 1.5L Yaris motor.
6. 6 speed manual; 6th gear deep overdrive e.g. 80mph at 2200rpm.
So that makes it fun to drive, very economical, practical, quick, and attractive.
Jun 16, 2007 (10:27 pm)
Base the platform loosely on the European Focus, but for RWD. Make it a bit longer, and use that for rear seat legroom. 4 door only.
For engine options, go for a 2.0/2.2 (2.0 in Mazda3 would be an example), 2.4/2.5 (Altima 4cyl - something with a bit of grunt), and stick a small (works at low RPMs) turbo in the big engine for the performance model, for ~220-230bhp). A diesel option would be nice, too.
15-16" wheels on the base engine, 16" or 17" on the middle model, and 17-18" on the sporty model.
5 speed manual or auto on "normal" versions, 6 speed manual on performance model.
RWD, LSD on performance version.
Usual range of accessories. A/C, power stuff standard, but not much else.
Styling like a Lancer or Mazda3 would be fine. Nice, non-tacky interior would be nice. A speedo that was useful for normal road travelling speeds would be nice, too.
Price would start probably around $16k or so, and go up to $25-28k fully loaded, and they'd be very different cars.
Nominally, it'd likely fall into the compact class, or maybe edge in to the bottom of the midsize class.
Oh well, the Mazda3 comes close enough
#57 of 57 Re: ooohhh [forbesj]
Jun 17, 2007 (6:49 am)
>>Oh well, the Mazda3 comes close enough.<< I think you and I both would have prefered an AWD MazdaSpeed 3 to the current FWD one.