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Saab 9-3, Mazda MAZDA3, Mazda MAZDA6, BMW 3 Series, Scion xA, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Coupe, Hatchback, Sedan
Dec 10, 2003 (8:06 am)
Well I really like the Mercedes C230 Sport Coupe, but that is out of my price range.
I just bought a 2003 Mazda Protege DX (base) sedan, and would definitely have bought a hatchback had one been available. Just as the Protege is two generations evolution of the 1990-1994 Protege and the 3 is another generation still, I would have loved a 1999-2003 323, improved along the same lines as the sedan.
The Mazda 3 is nice, but the hatchbacks are all loaded 5 doors with all the luxo-stuff and the big engine. What I would like is a two door hatchback version with the smaller 2.0 liter, big enough tires and a firm suspension, at a price of about $13000 with AC.
#27 of 57 Here's what I want
Dec 14, 2003 (8:24 am)
5 door configuration
Bluetooth/Smart Start/Navigation System/ Power Sunroof
Automatic Climate Control
All for $26K (wishful)
The Toyota Prius comes close, but I want factory leather and that Power Liftgate. I'll compromise though and I'm thinking whether to line up at the dealer and give them my order.To keep prices affordable, maybe I'll need to not order a few items listed.
#28 of 57 Anyone familiar with Lancia?
Dec 26, 2003 (7:47 am)
How about the Lancia Delta Integrale!? Not exactly a great passenger car, but definitely one of the ultimate hatchbacks. Unfortunately not sold in the U.S. Last model was a '94. Rival to the Audi Quattro after '85, it owes its existence to the competition Audi brought to offroad rallye racing.
#29 of 57 Cheap, Fairly powerful, fairly roomy
Feb 21, 2004 (6:57 pm)
Something like a Scion xA (i.e. well-equipped, stylish, cheap), but with a 2.0 liter engine and about a foot longer (for a bigger trunk) would be about perfect. And oh yeah, cruise control.
Matrix would almost be it if the base model was equippped like the Scion, had a better engine than the 1.8, and got rid of the 'funky' dashboard/controls. Ew.
Feb 22, 2004 (7:52 pm)
If you could have made my old saab 900 turbo move like my 328i, you'd be doing pretty good.
Toss in bmw's 3.0L diesel and you're doing REALLY good. You could do donuts while burning soybean oil.
Of course, looking just now i spy the c320 sport coupe. It doesn't look too bad. The 20/26 mpg though, is not that great.
#31 of 57 My Ultimate "Hatchback"
Feb 25, 2004 (10:05 pm)
My ulitmate hatch is as follows:
(whisper this just loudly enough so that Mike Mauer [spelling??] at Saab hears this). "I want a 3-door version of the Saab 9-3x SportHatch."
3-doors 'cause I'm big and need a long side door.
Plenty of low end torque/high end pep.
Ergonomic interior to rival any Honda product.
Subwoofer standard....yes I'm an audiophile.
No shiny,plasticky dashboard.
Standard cooler in the back
Sport suspension/wheels/all-season tyres.
Durable as can be.
Glance'n'go dash/instrument center stack.
In other words, a thoroughly modern Volvo P1800 with all the Swedish blessings mixed with the best Japan offers and sold to this American. I love to drive; I love to look good; and sometimes I have to haul stuff. And no, I don't want an SUV, pickup, or another minivan. 90% of my time in it would be commuting, 5% hauling, and 5% playing.
If anyone is up to the task, it's Saab.
But, that is just a pipe dream. But that's what this thread is, isn't it?? ))
Feb 26, 2004 (3:42 pm)
The 9-3 sporthatch looks REALLY cool. 250hp, 260lb-ft. 15% better fuel economy. Glass roof, integrated bike carrier. I worry about the expense of all those bells and whistles i don't need ( like a DVD player, camcorder, and hydraulic rear gate ). But it looks good.
A mercedes sport copue with their diesel v6 wouldn't be bad either.
Feb 27, 2004 (5:15 am)
what is the 9-3 sporthatch? where can i read about this?
#35 of 57 Doh! Make that a 9-3 SportHatch w/ 3 doors.
Feb 27, 2004 (6:39 pm)
Sorry, I added an "x" inadvertantly. Although I like the 9-x, the 9-3x to me looks rather so-so even though the general idea of the vehicle is great.
I've admired the P-1800 for decades but am simply too tall to ever have a chance of fitting. I think Saab could be on to something successful w/ the SportHatch if they play the game right.
I also like the 3-door Hatch that is drawn in one of the recent European Car magazines. It's included in the article on the SportHatch for visual interest only but that little car could be pretty neat too. One glance and you know it's a Saab yet it's very elegant too.